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glass cleaner panic

Postby Bert Weiss » Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:59 pm

I am totally in a panic. I discovered that my favorite glass cleaner, Glass Wax, that I have used exclusively since the late 80's has been discontinued. Yikes, What else works??????

I will try and get a hold of a case somewhere, but it could be impossible. Woe is me. I am lost without my pink stuff.

Floaters, what cleans and leaves no scum or streaks? The only other substance I know that does as good a job is glass enamel and that is too expensive to waste cleaning glass.
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Postby Clifford Ross » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:09 pm

And Bert- even worse- - - - how are we to decorate our windows at Christmas now with no Glass Wax? Drat!!! :x :x :cry: :cry:

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Postby Gale aka artistefem » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:10 pm

Bert....two things I've found. This first one is not good for the body, but it works when nothing else will touch the crud. If you use it, do it with all the necessary safety precautions. Lacquer Thinner & Zylene products.

For scum I soak the glass in Lime-Away. If these products won't take the scum off, then I sandblast and fire.

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Postby Ron Coleman » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:21 pm

Try this PINK STUFF if you can't find glass wax.

Might just work as a glass cleaner, if it doesn't, you'll feel better maybe.

http://www.pepto-bismol.com/

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Postby Ron Coleman » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:29 pm

From what I remember about Glass Wax, it was a powdery substance suspended in a fast evaporating liquid. Maybe a little whiting mixed with water and alcohol might work.

I think the mild abrasive nature of Glass Wax is what did the cleaning.

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Postby Tom White » Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:48 pm

Bert, here is one url from a google, advanced search, exact phrase, search that lists a possible alternatiive.
http://www.jensco.com/glasswax.html

Best wishes,
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Postby Carol » Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:19 am

I use dish soap and water, rinese and let dry, followed with an alcohol wipe. If you're looking for a polish, what about kemopro used for stained glass? I've never tried it as a cleaner, only as a finish, so can't comment on using it on really dirty float. I think it has a cleaner though because of all the black crud that comes off when you polish s.g. with it.

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Postby Bert Weiss » Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:43 am

OK chem folks. What is the ingredient in windex that leaves the after fired scum? Is it ammonia? If so, do the no ammonia glass cleaners work for us. Does anybody use Sprayway, Sparkle or Nostreek?

I think the whiting or maybe cerium in some fast drying matrix isn't a bad idea. Don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to.

Glass painters know how clean the glass is after you wipe up a glass painting you don't like. That's what Glass Wax did. It isn't really a polish, just a cleaner. As you wipe up the pink powder, it takes all the bad stuff with it. The pink stuff sticks real well to dirt and grime, so you can see when it is clean, and when it looks clean it is.
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Postby Joseph Tracy » Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:38 pm

Sprayway has worked well for me . Much better than Windex type stuff. More aggressive on removing stuff, faster dry, cleaner finish.

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Postby Tony Smith » Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:50 pm

Bert,

I've been succesful using Sprayway (which will remove the oils) or regular Windex followed by a distilled water rinse and towel dry.

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Postby dee » Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:01 pm

Bert Weiss wrote:OK chem folks. What is the ingredient in windex that leaves the after fired scum? Is it ammonia? If so, do the no ammonia glass cleaners work for us. Does anybody use Sprayway, Sparkle or Nostreek?

I think the whiting or maybe cerium in some fast drying matrix isn't a bad idea. Don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to.

Glass painters know how clean the glass is after you wipe up a glass painting you don't like. That's what Glass Wax did. It isn't really a polish, just a cleaner. As you wipe up the pink powder, it takes all the bad stuff with it. The pink stuff sticks real well to dirt and grime, so you can see when it is clean, and when it looks clean it is.


bert - it is the amonia but for some reason no phosphorus also sticks in my memory - glass plus is what i use to clean my glass when i can't get cinch, also distilled white vinegar works ....
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Postby rosanna gusler » Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:07 pm

hi bert, i think that is silicon in windex that is the culprit. windex will cause horrible fisheyes in paint/varnish. i use ammonia in distilled water followed by a 'rinse' with distilled water in another spray bottle. i saw something like your glass wax at ace hardware. i will go look and report back. rosanna

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Postby stargazer » Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:10 pm

We are floaters. We use the ammonia free Sprayway from CR Laurence (white can with blue lettering, cat no. S50). It comes by the case. It's an aresol. We get clear glass. But we also have some clear, ammonia free Windex that works too. sheryl

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try this

Postby doc » Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:27 pm

I mix 1/3 rubbing alcohol, 1/2 water, 1/3 ammonia (no suds)......in a spray plastic bottle.............works gr8

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Postby Lynne Chappell » Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:13 am

Lacquer thinner for anything greasy or sticky (like those nasty rubber bumpers, labels, etc) and then Sprayway. Sprayway shows up any films left from labels, etc. when you spray it on - you can see the shape of the removed label very clearly. I then take the lacquer thinner to it, and use the Sprayway again.

Stained glass folks have replaced Glass Wax with Kem-o-Pro but I don't think it is as abrasive. The glass is certainly nice and shiny afterwards though. I would be worried about films left behind, but then I would worry about Glass Wax doing the same thing.

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Postby dee » Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:04 am

Tony Smith wrote:Bert,

I've been succesful using Sprayway (which will remove the oils) or regular Windex followed by a distilled water rinse and towel dry.

Tony


tony - can one find sprayaway in regular stores? or will i have to order?
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Postby Bert Weiss » Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:57 am

dee wrote:
Tony Smith wrote:Bert,

I've been succesful using Sprayway (which will remove the oils) or regular Windex followed by a distilled water rinse and towel dry.

Tony


tony - can one find sprayaway in regular stores? or will i have to order?


Dee

Sprayway can most likely be bought at your local window glass shop. Sometimes they package it with store labels. CRL sells it to the glass guys. You can buy it from CRL by the case, or maybe individually as well.

If you ever use suction cups on your glass. After you do this, spray on some Sprayway. It beads up around the invisible marks left by the rubber. Once they are cleaned up the spray doesn't bead. Those invisible marks become painfully visible after kiln firing.
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Postby Marilyn Kaminski » Wed Aug 20, 2003 2:17 pm

I have bought Sprayway at Costco. They don't always have it, though.

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Postby Dani » Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:28 pm

It's also great for taking really nasty stains out of light-colored carpets. :wink:


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