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BobbieMatus
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Glass paint safe for food

Postby BobbieMatus » Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:11 am

Looking for paints that would be safe for food.

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Re: Glass paint safe for food

Postby Bert Weiss » Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:56 am

luvhug wrote:Looking for paints that would be safe for food.


Ferro, Summerday series is lead free. Sunshine series has some lead but applied and fired properly, it should meet standards. Worst case is overcoat it with clear flux from the Sunshine series 1-800-245-4951.

I'm teaching a 3 day workshop with Sunshine series before WGWE at Minnennium Arts Center. Summerday behaves the same so techniques are totally applicable.

Both series are china paints so they are formulated to be used with food.
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Postby BobbieMatus » Mon Aug 18, 2003 1:57 pm

Your are a little tooooo far for a workshop, clear accross the country. Would love to attend though. What is the firing temperature for the Ferro paint.

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Postby Bert Weiss » Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:51 pm

luvhug wrote:Your are a little tooooo far for a workshop, clear accross the country. Would love to attend though. What is the firing temperature for the Ferro paint.


@ 1480ºF. I've gotten mixed results at 1420. They are good up into the 1500's as well.

BTW there are CA folks coming.
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Postby Stephie » Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:47 pm

If I could just talk someone into paying for it, I'd love to. :lol:[/code]

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Postby Tom White » Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:20 am

Unique Glass Colors makes paints suitable for food contact. "We offer two different glass color products----the original colors and a lead-free version for use on food serving pieces. " See their web site at http://uniqueglasscolors.com/

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Postby BobbieMatus » Tue Aug 19, 2003 10:07 am

I have the unique colors, don't like them you really can't paint with them, you have to puddle them. Sorry, Tom in Texas.
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Ferro Paint for Bert

Postby BobbieMatus » Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:40 am

I called Ferro, and got a big runner around from them, connected me to several different people. Asked for paint safe for food, color charts, and prices. They faxed me and information sheet for Versicolor Enamels Series 75 CL (formulated without lead) This didn't match what you told me. Anyway no prices, got a list of colors and firing range 1140 to 1180. They don't make it easy for you. Just how do you buy these paints, what sizes do they come in, how much are they.
Has anyone worked with Reusche unleaded, are they safe, they are easier to buy.
Bobbie

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Postby Tom White » Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:12 am

Bobbie, if you are looking for dry chinapaint colors you might try Mr. and Mrs. of Dallas. They sell leadfree colors in 1 dram vials or 1/2 pound or full pound quantities. You will have to mix these with the media of your choice to make the paints you want.
http://www.mrandmrsofdallas.com/Product ... Paints.htm

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paint

Postby BobbieMatus » Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:26 am

thanks Tom, I'll check it out
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Postby Bert Weiss » Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:28 am

Tom White wrote:Bobbie, if you are looking for dry chinapaint colors you might try Mr. and Mrs. of Dallas. They sell leadfree colors in 1 dram vials or 1/2 pound or full pound quantities. You will have to mix these with the media of your choice to make the paints you want.
http://www.mrandmrsofdallas.com/Product ... Paints.htm

Best wishes,
Tom in Texas


Tom

That was a good resource. Their pound price for china paints cost somewhat less than double what I pay per kilo from Ferro, which still makes Ferro good for me.

However they sell the transparent glass colors. These are hard to get in the USA. If I am guessing right, they are Heraeus enamels. I used to buy from Heraeus but they upped their minimum quantity from 1 kilo to 5 kilos. That priced me out of their ballpark.

Ferro makes the transparent colors in Germany, but they don't export them to the USA. I think Heraeus will export them here. I have a couple of colors that are great. Especially a lemon yellow transparent that is stable right up to fusing temps. It is an incredibly strong color. It will even hold up to being covered with cobalt blue. I thought that it would disappear, but it pretty much turned green.

I believe that the Heraeus and Ferro transparent glass colors are superior to the colors available through Reusche. They are more transparent and more glassy.

Fusemaster also resells these enamels Their prices look similar to Mr & Mrs. I thought that Fusemaster charged more, but a quick look said that they were not far apart. They are board sponsors Click on Fusion HQ.
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Ferro Paint

Postby BobbieMatus » Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:44 pm

Still would like to get the Ferro, but how do you buy them. I want small amounts of each color. They never sent me prices??
Bobbie


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