tried & true firing schedule not working anymore

shasta · Post by **shasta** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:19 am

my perfect firing schedule is failing me. i've been using these times for 6 months, same kiln, same glass, same thickness. the kiln is just over a year old, a paragon. do kilns need to be re-calibrated or something i don't know about. it was quite a sudden change it worked and then suddenly was underfiring and has been for a week. any ideas why this is? this isn't what i need on the big ramp up for xmas.

tanks.
diana

Tony Smith · Post by **Tony Smith** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:10 am

What does you schedule look like? More information please.

Tony

jim simmons · Post by **jim simmons** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:14 am

shasta wrote:my perfect firing schedule is failing me. i've been using these times for 6 months, same kiln, same glass, same thickness. the kiln is just over a year old, a paragon. do kilns need to be re-calibrated or something i don't know about. it was quite a sudden change it worked and then suddenly was underfiring and has been for a week. any ideas why this is? this isn't what i need on the big ramp up for xmas.

tanks.
diana

If this was a sudden step function, you might want to check

A.check the thermocouple position to make sure it hasn't moved.
B. Callibrate the TC.
C. Make sure that the connections are not oxidized and are tight.
Jim

Suzan · Post by **Suzan** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:49 am

If your kiln is suddenly underfiring, verify if one or more elements need to be replaced.

Carol · Post by **Carol** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:31 am

shasta wrote:my perfect firing schedule is failing me. i've been using these times for 6 months, same kiln, same glass, same thickness. the kiln is just over a year old, a paragon. do kilns need to be re-calibrated or something i don't know about. it was quite a sudden change it worked and then suddenly was underfiring and has been for a week. any ideas why this is? this isn't what i need on the big ramp up for xmas.

tanks.
diana

Diana...call me if you want to borrow a pyrometer for a day or two for calibration.

Carol

Lynn Bishop · Post by **Lynn Bishop** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:43 pm

My Paragon did this at the tender age of 4 months. It turned out that the controller was dying.

Lynn Bishop · Post by **Lynn Bishop** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:44 pm

My Paragon did this at the tender age of 4 months. It turned out that the controller was dying.

shasta · Post by **shasta** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:46 am

upon further inspection, this is a front loader btw. i see the element coils have come out of the slot there supposed to be tucked in. the coil has contracted and therefore been pulled out. so i'd have to stretch it to get it back in. i don't know if that would harm it, to do so? hope this makes sense.

Tom White · Post by **Tom White** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:14 am

Shasta, I don't know if you are aware that kiln elements become very brittle when cold after they have been fired a few times. Do not try to move/stretch your elements while they are cold. Heat the element to red hot, turn the switch off , then quickly move the element before it cools. If it starts to feel stiff reheat it before moving it more.

Best wishes,
Tom in Texas

Brian and Jenny Blanthorn · Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:24 am

shasta wrote:upon further inspection, this is a front loader btw. i see the element coils have come out of the slot there supposed to be tucked in. the coil has contracted and therefore been pulled out. so i'd have to stretch it to get it back in. i don't know if that would harm it, to do so? hope this makes sense.

Check all the element conections in the back

Check all wiring connections

Check door seal

Check vents

Look 4 obvious things

Have U left the vents open

Not closed the door properly

One thing tho

A slight change in set up / spacing etc

Can make a big difference

Brian

shasta · Post by **shasta** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:12 pm

thanks for everyones repsonses. it looks like that area that is out of the groove isn't heating up, its not red when the temperature is ramping up. i presume i need to get the coil element replaced. i don't have a clue as to where or to whom i could get a kiln fixed. an appliance repairer? electrician? i live in a pretty small town so resources are limited. is that a part that would be difficult for a repairman to get? anyone have this problemo before? help...

Brad Walker · Post by **Brad Walker** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:37 pm

If the element's gone bad (and that sounds like what it is), you can get a replacement element and install it yourself. It's not that difficult, you just need to take it slow. Most kiln manufacturers will help you with the procedure, and most have the replacement element available for sale also.

Just contact the kiln manufacturer and ask about the element. There's also a list of other places that have elements on the Warm Glass site at: http://www.warmglass.com/Resources.htm#Kilnparts (note that one of the listed companies, Euclids, is in Canada).

Whoever you call, be prepared with the model and make of your kiln and the specific element that is out.

WarmGlass.com

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