New Spectrum Papyros Kiln Shelf Paper

[Crowneglass]

Has any one tried Spectrum's new ceramic shelf paper. I am firing on it for the first time today and I will post my findings tomorrow.

[AndyT]

Has any one tried Spectrum's new ceramic shelf paper. I am firing on it for the first time today and I will post my findings tomorrow.

Never heard of it. got a link?

[Crowneglass]

Here is a link. www.system96.com/PAPYROS

[Lynn g]

The link says it's under construction...so we'll have to wait for your report!

[Crowneglass]

I started with a full sheet 20.5" x 20.5" on a 20" shelf. I had three test projects, all 2 layers of 1/8" glass. Test project #1 was 2 layers of BE transparent. Test project #2 was two layers of Wissmach 90 transparent. Test project #3 was two layers of Spectrum 96 opal. The schedule was 500 to 1490 hold 10 min/ 9999 to 960 hold 1hr/ 150 to 750 off.
The paper stuck to the back of the opals but the transparents lifted off easily without any damage. Even with a torn section, the rest of the sheet stayed intact. You could definately get more firings out of this using transparents. After firing, the paper does not break down to powder. I scouped up the whole sheet and disposed of it without a cloud of ceramic fiber billowing up. Next week I'll see how many full fuse firings I can get out of this stuff.

[AndyT]

I started with a full sheet 20.5" x 20.5" on a 20" shelf. I had three test projects, all 2 layers of 1/8" glass. Test project #1 was 2 layers of BE transparent. Test project #2 was two layers of Wissmach 90 transparent. Test project #3 was two layers of Spectrum 96 opal. The schedule was 500 to 1490 hold 10 min/ 9999 to 960 hold 1hr/ 150 to 750 off.
The paper stuck to the back of the opals but the transparents lifted off easily without any damage. Even with a torn section, the rest of the sheet stayed intact. You could definately get more firings out of this using transparents. After firing, the paper does not break down to powder. I scouped up the whole sheet and disposed of it without a cloud of ceramic fiber billowing up. Next week I'll see how many full fuse firings I can get out of this stuff.

Where'd ya get it from?

[JestersBaubles]

The paper stuck to the back of the opals but the transparents lifted off easily without any damage. Even with a torn section, the rest of the sheet stayed intact. You could definately get more firings out of this using transparents. After firing, the paper does not break down to powder. I scouped up the whole sheet and disposed of it without a cloud of ceramic fiber billowing up. Next week I'll see how many full fuse firings I can get out of this stuff.

How's the finish on the back, compared to Bullseye Thinfire?

I've always been hesitant to reuse my Thinfire, even when it appears to remain intact. I worry that I'll disturb it when putting the new piece of glass on the shelf and end up with glass sticking.

Dana W.

[Valerie Adams]

I've always been hesitant to reuse my Thinfire, even when it appears to remain intact. I worry that I'll disturb it when putting the new piece of glass on the shelf and end up with glass sticking.

Dana W.

When I was using Thinfire on a regular basis, I could easily get two, and sometimes three firings without replacing it. It helps to remove your glass when it's cold because it doesn't stick or disturb the TF. If you remove your glass while it's warm, I've had it mess up the TF. I've only used TF on a kiln-washed shelf.

[JestersBaubles]

I'll be interested to try it. I buy my supplies from D&L, and I received an email today that they have it available for order August 1.

Dana W.

[kholtkamp@fuse.net]

The System 96 site seems to include everything but the price. Is the price comparable to Thinfire?

[AndyT]

The System 96 site seems to include everything but the price. Is the price comparable to Thinfire?

the 96 is slightly higher than thinfire.

[JestersBaubles]

Crowneglass or others who may have worked with Spectrum's new shelf paper... any comments good or bad? Problems with hazing, curling, etc?

I'm down to my last sheets of Thinfire, and I'm thinking of going with the Papyros. I like the idea of less mess during cleanup. However, I'd hate to invest a few hundred dollars in a roll and then find it causes problems (I have had great luck with Bullseye Thinfire, but it's messier than I would prefer).

Dana W.

[DonMcClennen]

Tested it for local wholesaler....Don't like it!! sticks to opals....rougher texture than thinfire...not impressed....will not be a substitute to thinfire for me. I'd pay double for "Thinfire" if necessary.
My 2 cents.

[pshash]

I just received an email from anything in stained glass and they carry it.

[vblue]

A & A Products carries both.

[GlassCat]

I've been using it and love it. Doing jewelry, so maybe smaller pieces than some of you but I have not experienced any sticking to opals or otherwise. I got 5 firings out of the last sheet I laid down. I will be buying more. I also like the fact that there is not a could of dust after the firing, just a sheet of intact paper to throw away (or use again)

Carol