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HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:45 am
by Brad Walker
Jody Danner Walker's book "Printmaking Techniques on Glass" (more info here: http://www.warmglass.com/printmaking) lists several HP cartridges that can be used for photo transfer. The numbers cited in the book are:

12A
35A
36A
53A

Since the book was published, HP has added several cartridges to the line. If you know of any that work for photo transfer, please add them to this thread so that others can benefit.

(Please cite cartridge numbers, not printer models -- those come and go, the cartridges stay around longer and are used in multiple printers.)

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:10 pm
by Kevin Midgley
10A

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:14 pm
by JestersBaubles
My hubby recently purchased a Canon Image Class MF4800 Series (4890dw, I think -- my over-50 eyes are having trouble reading the writing :mrgreen: ). Reading the MSDS, I believe it had about 45% ferrite (that's from memory... hopefully it's better than my eyes)

I am in the middle of my first attempt at trying the technique from the book that uses regular paper. It looks promising. I've fired the image on the glass, will soon get a background blank in the kiln, and then combine the two in a third firing.

I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes.

Dana W.

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:28 am
by tbach
78A and 5A both work well

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:05 pm
by Morganica
As Dana says, the easiest way to figure this out is to simply read the MSDS. For HP, visit here and look up the one you're interested in: http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizens ... hOallNhvuS
For Canon: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_can ... KeyCode=50, select "product" in the first dropdown and type "toner" in the search box.
For Epson: http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/supp ... dsmain.jsp
For Xerox: http://www.xerox.com/msds‎ (You need to know the product family to search for , which is lame)
For Brother: http://www.brothertoners.com/brother_MSDS.htm (note that this isn't the official Brother site, it's a toner reseller so it may not be up to date)

Section 3 (Composition) of the MSDS will list percentage of materials in a particular toner. You're looking for "ferrite." Some manufacturers will list it as iron oxide, ferrous oxide or FeO. (Basically, if it says iron or ferr-something, that's the percentage you want) If you see words in the list like "polymer," without any reference to iron, it's the wrong toner.

The more FeO in the toner, the better it works for image transfer. Once you have the MSDS--and they're required to be published for any product sold in the US--all you have to do is make sure it has the minimum percentage you need for your application...for that particular toner.

Do not assume that all toners for a particular printer model, brand and offmarket, contain the same percentage of FeO--check every time the product part number. Sometimes they may not contain any at all, and sometimes a manufacturer can change toner formulations.

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:44 pm
by Dianne Van de Carr
I am confused by all of this.
I purchased a HP1212 LaserJet printer and according to MSDS it contains less than 50% Styrene Acrylate Copolymer and less than 45% Ferrite. Will it work or should I return the printer? It appears that the older printers use toner with higher ferrite percentages. What to do, what to do???

Dianne

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:02 am
by Morganica
if it has some percentage of iron, ie ferrite, try it, and see how it works for your application. If it doesn't work, you may need to buy a toner richer in iron for it. More than likely there is one.

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:27 pm
by Dianne Van de Carr
Thanks! I ordered a MICR cartridge too just in case.
Dianne

Re: HP Cartridges that work for image transfer

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:30 pm
by Virginia Robinson
:?: Does anyone know what kind of rinter and cartridges will work to make a decal that can then b fired onto ceramic and pottery and glass