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bothofushk
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another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby bothofushk » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:41 pm

Hi all,,,I have a Southwest Airline Wine Bottle with an etched on label, but with colors..does anyone know if the colors with withstand the slumping,,just want to do it flat for the client..she has had this bottle 10 years,,,so want to be very careful...I have done LOTS of bottles,,grey goose, coke, sprite, vodka etc. with etched on labels,,but not this one..I do have a good firing schedule for bottles so really just want to know if anyone hase seen or slumped this bottle. Thanks

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GuyKass
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Re: another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby GuyKass » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:21 pm

Is it printed on the surface or recessed below the surface?

If it is below, it's been etched and color filled. These pieces are usually filled with regular paint (usually enamels) of some type and it will burn off.

If it is on the surface and if it was printed with an epoxy based ink it will burn off. If it was done with vitreous enamels (that is what I would call it, but if I am wrong, someone can feel free to correct me) it will stay on. If you can scratch it with a key or tool, it will burn off as it is probably enamel.

bothofushk
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Re: another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby bothofushk » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:53 pm

Thanks GuyKass,,,it is recessed and I will try the scratch test..Thanks for responding..

bothofushk

Judd
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Re: another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby Judd » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:21 pm

Just fire it. If it's a success, you got a great slumped bottle. If it fails, it's just a bottle. Who cares? The etching will probably gloss over, BTW. That's what happens with Grey Goose bottles.

bothofushk
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Re: another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby bothofushk » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:46 pm

southwest.jpg
Hi all,,,is a picture of the bottle I was asking about,,I did the scratch test,,and indeed it did scratch..:) so that means it will burn off right?

GuyKass
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Re: another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby GuyKass » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:49 pm

Yes. It will burn off.

I do lots of bottle etching, and that is a classic example of regular old paint.

I would bet anything on it.


Now if you want to reproduce, it...

You can etch a flattened bottle and color fill it with enamels for Brad or Thompson or someone like that and it will work.


Guy

ps If you want to try it from scratch, feel free to call me and I can talk you through it.

bothofushk
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Postby bothofushk » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:58 pm

thanks,,but I might just tell the lady I cant ruin her bottle, UNLess she wants me to try it..but you have an interesting solution to my problem,,but maybe a little tooooo
much work for me:) for a bottle.

bothofushk

GuyKass
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Re: another Bottle Slumping Question

Postby GuyKass » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:50 pm

Hi again-

Upon reflection I was making it harder than it had to be (if you knew me you would know just how shocking that is.)

Anyway you could slump a regular bottle, etch it, and color fill it with regular enamels (like the existing bottle), no reason to put it back into the kiln again.

Guy


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