Need solid glue to replace Triolyse...

[JulieR]

Yesterday I was going to order more Triolyse, when I found out pretty quickly that it no longer exists...the company closed and therefore no more is being produced. Even good ole Google was failing to find me some.

Triolyse has been my staple glue pretty much from my start of working with glass in 2003. I liked it because it would bond very solidly, was extremely easy to work with, and it cured without having to produce UV light. Most importantly, I had very few bond failures over the years.

I primarily use it in jewelry...for earrings (stud and dangle), pendants, barrettes, and all kinds of other things. The studs and pendants require the most strong bonds.

I've tried E-6000 which I know many on here swear by...I simply swear at it. It stinks, it is messy gooey, and the bonds have failed, even though I rough up surfaces. I live in an area where it can be very humid, and that can affect things.

So...any other recommendations? Will other UV glues work if I use opaque glass bonding to metal? I'm considering trying Loctite 349 Impruv, but it would be kind of a pricey 'experiment'. I really would appreciate any and all solid recommendations other than E-6000.

Thanks in advance!
Julie

[Brad Walker]

You might try one of the jeweler's epoxies, like Epoxy 330. It's been recommended by jeweler friends of us. It's made for gluing jewelry cabochons to metal findings or for jeweler's repairs, should work for glass, too.

Caveat: I don't have firsthand experience with this product. We have pretty good luck with E-6000, but we're scrupulous about using fresh product, preparing and cleaning surfaces, and allowing to cure for at least 24 hours.

https://www.amazon.com/Epoxy-330-Water- ... op?ie=UTF8

[Rick Wilton]

no regular uv glues will NOT work with opaque glass and metal.

Dymax does sell a uv glue that works with an activator though

http://www.dymax.com/index.php/adhesives

[JulieR]

Thanks Rick & Brad... A couple of options to start.

RICK -- who do you actually purchase the Dymax from? The website doesn't show a store to order from. How do I get this stuff?? This sounds like it may be much like the Triolyse I am so used to using. I definitely need an activator type thing, or roll maybe with the 2-part epoxy (which sounds a bit more messy and hard to work with).

Thanks for the info.

[Lynn Perry]

Hi Julie. I am sorry E6000 does not work for you. It has always been reliable for me, but I do not live in a very humid climate. You might want to look for Tanya Veit's tips on using E6000 and Goop in a humid climate (just google her and glue). She is located in south Florida.

I would not recommend Dymax with an activator. I did not have any success with this, and I think the reason is that it is very difficult to get a uniform application of the glue and the activator on a very small surface, like a post earring.

I would also not recommend an epoxy, unless it has some flexibility, because the bond can not withstand dropping. Epoxy is also very smelly. Finally, after I would get the parts aligned perfectly and all appeared to be set, the pieces would slide slightly and set permanently. I was using Devcon two-ton epoxy. Some people have recommended Loctite E30CL Hysol and purchasing the application gun for proper mixing of the components, but I have never tried this.

Here is a link to a site for glueing recommendations:

http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue. ... that=Glass

Another site recommended to me is:

http://www.clk-llc.com/

Chuck is the person operating this website and is a good resource for recommending products. He is also a source for Dymax products in small quantities.

[JulieR]

Lynn...thanks for your response. I was on the phone earlier with someone at Dymax and he also gave me the information for the Chuck at http://www.clk-llc.com, which you referred to. That is a source I may look into, as he apparently sells small quantities of product. Ordering directly from Dymax would require a 10-unit minimum purchase, which is far more than I personally could use before it would break down and become unusable. If it does work well, getting other businesses to buy some quantities to sell out in small quantities to the community might be a good thing. Brad maybe??

Dymax suggested to me 6-630-T for the glue and 535-A for the activator.

So anyone else out there also looking to experiment with this stuff, that is all the info I have so far on my hunt.

If I come up with more information in my hunt, or have comments on products I get, I'll gladly share.

[jim burchett]

Lowe's and HD sell a Loctite 2part epoxy that comes with 2 applicator tubes...I use the 5 minute type which has been effective for glass to glass, glass to stone and metal...or E 6000

[Barry Kaiser]

On our web site kaiserglass.com , we have a tutorial on how to use E6000. Works every time and holds virtually forever.
The "heat E6000 in a toaster oven" helps, but does not have the grip necessary for long term hold.

Barry