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Dried up

Postby josie » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:14 pm

I recently relocated. A lot of my stuff has been stored for a year. I have a set of TE marking pens and glassline enamels. both have dried up. any idea how best to rehydrate them?

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Re: Dried up

Postby jim simmons » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:15 pm

No, but if you ever find out, I would like to know also :>)
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Re: Dried up

Postby josie » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:29 pm

will do. it is too bad. paints such as watercolor may be rehydrated. trying a bit of water in the Glassline bottle. if it works i may pry off the ends of the pens and add a drop or two.

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Re: Dried up

Postby Kevin Midgley » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:26 pm

Glassline needs to be shaken and or vibrated for ages and ages with the addition of water. This may help too..... [-o<

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Re: Dried up

Postby Bert Weiss » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:47 pm

I wouldn't add water. I'd add propylene glycol. Maybe soak the tips in the glycol.
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Re: Dried up

Postby josie » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:54 am

thanks for your replies

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Re: Dried up

Postby jim simmons » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:45 am

OK, Bert. Where can a normal person off of the street buy it in quantities less than 50 gal.?
Jim

Bert Weiss wrote:I wouldn't add water. I'd add propylene glycol. Maybe soak the tips in the glycol.

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Re: Dried up

Postby Brad Walker » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:54 am

jim simmons wrote:OK, Bert. Where can a normal person off of the street buy it in quantities less than 50 gal.?


Not hard to find. Amazon carries it.

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Re: Dried up

Postby josie » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:06 pm

isn't propylene glycol anti-freeze?

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Re: Dried up

Postby jim simmons » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:40 pm

I think that is etheline glycol.
correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Dried up

Postby josie » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:42 pm

thanks jim. i think you are correct.

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Re: Dried up

Postby carol carson » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:59 pm

I've used Glassline for years and have always reconstitutes them with water, no matter how dried up they were, it worked.

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Re: Dried up

Postby josie » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:02 pm

i tried a little water and then fired a sample and it seems to have worked. now if i can get the pens reconstituted.

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Re: Dried up

Postby jim simmons » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:29 am

How long did you have to shake it?
I just shook 2 bottles quite vigorously for 10 min. each with almost no reconstituting
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Re: Dried up

Postby josie » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:11 am

not long at all. i used the blue. the rest are soaking to see if it makes a difference. this is the squeeze bottles, not the pens.

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Re: Dried up

Postby Kevin Midgley » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:39 pm

Shake is a general term.
A back massager has a second use in this case.
I must admit being tempted to fill a paint can with dried bottles well capped and taking them to a paint store for having a run through their paint mixer machine.

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Re: Dried up

Postby JestersBaubles » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:57 am

I talked with the Glassline folks a couple of years ago at the Glass Expo. They say to just add some water, let it sit overnight, and then "shake vigorously".

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Re: Dried up

Postby jim simmons » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:31 pm

That sounds like a heck of an idea. fill the spaces between the bottles with sand to keep them from moving.


Kevin Midgley wrote:Shake is a general term.
A back massager has a second use in this case.
I must admit being tempted to fill a paint can with dried bottles well capped and taking them to a paint store for having a run through their paint mixer machine.

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Re: Dried up

Postby Kevin Midgley » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:40 am

tape the caps on if you try it.

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Re: Dried up

Postby Bert Weiss » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:36 am

Ethylene glycol is regular antifreeze. Propylene glycol is non-toxic antifreeze often used to winterize RV's and heating systems. I buy it as food grade from bulk apothecary, online,

Recon requires a palette knife on a glass palette. I use a cake spreader that is pretty stiff for my palette knife, along with a smaller artist's one.

A medium consists of a vehicle and a binder. The glycol is the vehicle, and I use gum Arabic mixed with the powder for my binder. I'm sure there are other ways binders can be incorporated. I also mix in glycerine to slow down drying. (Glycol and glycerine both start with the same root glyc, so I assume they are first cousins).

I was taught to paint on small pieces of glass for stained glass windows. I had to adapt techniques to work on large pieces of glass. Slowing down the drying was the key to working large. I can put the glass in the kiln to dry it, if I need it dry right away. You can fire wet if the painted surface is on top. The glycol lowers the freezing point and raises the boiling point. The result of the higher boiling point allows for the paint to dry before it boils. This is really good for us, allowing us to fire wet paint without it messing up. If it were to boil, you would see visual result of the pigment moving around.
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