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out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:34 am
by Kay McConnell
I used to be a very active glass hobbyist, until my husband's motorcycle accident almost 12 yrs ago. Life changes on a dime! I am just now coming back to glass after an 11.5 yr hiatus due to our life changes. So, much of this seems new to me, after such a long break.

I am in need of a firing schedule for this, and am stumped. This base was a mistake that happened in a class I was taking (taking a few local classes to help me get my feet wet again). I thought it was really cool, though, and decided to use it for something. I can't lift this base layer at all, as the instructor fused it on thin fire (or a different brand: I'm not sure). I placed a single sheet of clear glass on top of it, but am now wondering if I should place TWO clear layers on top of it.

SO, my questions:
(1) should I put two layers on top of this bumpy, uneven base layer, and
(2) what should I do for a firing schedule?

Thank you very much for any suggestions you may have.....
Kay

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:14 pm
by Kevin Midgley
brilliant instructor fusing it to the paper.
covered, you will probably trap air.
What are you plans for the piece?
I think I'd be tempted to remove the paper.
Soak it in water and scrub carefully with heavily gloved hands.
Some residue will be left.
Then I'd hang it on a wall or window to be kept as a reminder of not what to do.

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:26 pm
by Kay McConnell
but these clumps of fused frit powder are not connected to anything. If I soak and remove the paper, I'll have a pile of fused clumps. Guess I could arrange them myself on a piece of glass, though. Thank you for opening my eyes.

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:02 pm
by jim simmons
That is exactly what I would do. Is to clean them up and then fuse them to a sheet of clear.
Also I would never take another class from this "(instructor)"
The other Jim

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:19 pm
by Kay McConnell
Thank you for your advice. This is what I'll do.

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:41 pm
by Kevin Midgley
If you'd fired it onto Bullseye kiln wash, the wash probably would have washed off clean. As it is an opaque colour of red you'd probably have to re-kilnwash the shelf. Easier than using paper. Never touch the stuff myself although it is easy enough to make your own 'paper'.

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:54 pm
by Brad Walker
Kay McConnell wrote:I am in need of a firing schedule for this, and am stumped. This base was a mistake that happened in a class I was taking (taking a few local classes to help me get my feet wet again). I thought it was really cool, though, and decided to use it for something. I can't lift this base layer at all, as the instructor fused it on thin fire (or a different brand: I'm not sure). I placed a single sheet of clear glass on top of it, but am now wondering if I should place TWO clear layers on top of it.

SO, my questions:
(1) should I put two layers on top of this bumpy, uneven base layer, and
(2) what should I do for a firing schedule?

Thank you very much for any suggestions you may have.....
Kay
If you like the pattern and want to preserve it, place a sheet of glass and top (one or two, your choice) and fire to either a tack fuse (one sheet) or a full fuse (two sheets). Then flip the piece over and clean off the paper. (You may need to sandblast.) When that's done, re-fire with the red on top to shine it up.

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:47 am
by Ed Cantarella
^ I'm with Brad, you can just fire as is. But cleaning and laying them out might be more satisfying from a design aesthetic - or save them to use as design elements in a few different pieces. :-k I've made those "worms" before, never seem to be that satisfying in situ(their original as fired configuration.) :idea: It's a comparatively small amount of glass right now, the cover glass will cost as much or more, so saving and planning around them may be the best gambit for you.
:mrgreen: No point in throwing good glass after bad (not saying it's bad, just sayin :) )

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:32 pm
by Kay McConnell
It seems the suggestion I like best is from Brad Walker. However, what could I use to clean off the paper if I don't have a sand blaster?

I have no idea why she fired directly on the paper, but I imagine that is part of her (instructor) mistake. She woke up in the middle of the night and realized she forgot to cap it with glass, but I can't imagine it was supposed to be fired directly on the paper, either.

Thanks to everyone! I remember what a great help this board is!

Re: out of the norm and need firing schedule

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:45 am
by Buttercup
Kevin Midgley wrote: Easier than using paper. Never touch the stuff myself although it is easy enough to make your own 'paper'.
Kevin do you have the 'method' or a link, please. I've never used paper but wouldn't mind trying it for fiddly bits that tend to get lost in alumina hydrate.