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Glues and silicones

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:07 am
by FusedLightStudio
Interested in recommendations regarding glues and silicones for the following use cases:
1-Assemblage of small, clear glass pieces (e.g. a sculpture composed of different kinds of glasses that aren’t compatible for fusing). I have used Loctite glass glue. It dries clear, stays clear, is fairly strong but I wouldn’t use it for larger pieces. I’ve heard that UV glue is preferable but don’t know what brand.
2-Adhering clear glass permanently to another surface (e.g. glass onto ceramic or vice versa). I’ve used two-part JBWeld clear epoxy, but the company told me it will yellow over time.
3-Repair broken glass. UV glue? If so what kind? I’ve tried Bondix but it did not stay clear. Kevin recommended Lepages 100% glue.
4-Adhere kilncarved transparent glass to another piece of glass for display. Silicone seems logical but I had a heck of a time making a consistent bead.
5-Adhering images printed on paper to glass. I’ve tried acrylic gel medium with mixed results.
6-Adhering glass temporarily to a wall (as in an installation for a month). Silicone can be removed with vinegar (I think), so that seems reasonable. I tried glue dots but they are not strong enough.
7- Securing large glass in a frame (similar to a mirror, as a secondary hold, in addition to staples). CRL silicone was highly recommended by a local glass shop.
8- Bails on glass pendants. I have used E6000 and JBWeld two-part, but at least one of them (maybe both) failed after exposure to heat (sitting in a hot car). I know I should probably ask this in the Jewelry forum but, now that I have your attention...

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:52 am
by JenniferB
You might find this information useful.
https://conservationsupportsystems.com/ ... ar-epoxies

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:39 am
by FusedLightStudio
Thanks, Jennifer. I was only familiar with Hxtal as advertised on the Hang Your Glass page - this is a much better explanation. Had not tried it because it’s so expensive, but this information convinces me it’s worth a shot.

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:22 am
by Tom Fuhrman
check out www. Panacol-USA , I have used a lot of their adhesives with great success. They even have some of my applications shown on their website. They make a lot of different adhesives depending upon your application. They used to be called Tangent Industries but were merged with a European company.

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:49 pm
by FusedLightStudio
Tom Fuhrman wrote:check out www. Panacol-USA , I have used a lot of their adhesives with great success. They even have some of my applications shown on their website. They make a lot of different adhesives depending upon your application. They used to be called Tangent Industries but were merged with a European company.
Thanks, Tom! Another site with a wealth of information.

Have to ask what your favorite is for glass-to-glass bonding.

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:51 pm
by JenniferB
Here's a series of videos on Hxtal made by the Hisglassworks people.

https://www.hisglassworks.com/support/a ... glass.html

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:45 pm
by Don Burt
Lots of architecture glass is being fabricated with two-part silicone . Bohle gives demos of the technique from time to time at AGG and SGAA conferences. They have You Tube videos. Looks pretty fussy to me. Never tried it.

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:10 am
by Tom Fuhrman
Lisa, it depends on where the piece is to be used and what type of joint is involved. For outdoor usage, I preferred Panacol VBB-1. for some interior pieces I used 6108 with good success.

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:39 pm
by Buttercup
Lisa, be careful using adhesive on mirror backs. Many adhesives will destroy the mirroring so be sure to choose one that won't. I've forgotten the North American one I used to use. Glass installers use a particular brand that won't harm the mirroring. I'm sure that information is readily available from any glass shop.

Re: Glues and silicones

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:24 am
by Kevin Midgley
Lepages 100% glue has mirror applications listed. It isn't an instant grab glue so support during curing is needed