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Bonnie Rubinstein
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mesh melt turn black

Postby Bonnie Rubinstein » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:28 pm

Hi- I am making mesh melts with system 96. Nothing dark, except some small pieces of aventurine green. The rest is firelight white, and light greens and blues, a few blue and green opaques thrown in. For some reason, sections of black result in the melt. It is not spalling- that is small flakes. This is the glass actually turning black, as if there was some incompatibility issue. ( I attached a picture, hope it shows up! ) Thanks for the feedback! Bonnie
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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Bonnie Rubinstein » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:30 pm

the picture (clearly) was just a before shot of the stack of pre-fired glass.
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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Brad Walker » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:34 am

Got an after photo?

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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Bonnie Rubinstein » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:09 am

Ha- I broke it up with a hammer to use just the good parts and tossed the black. I will go to studio and see what I can get on a photo.
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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Bonnie Rubinstein » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:56 am

I recall I did take a quick pic prior to the hammer! here it is.
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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby DonMcClennen » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:27 am

I actually see a lot of darker cathedrals in your pile... they will dominate!!!
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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Bonnie Rubinstein » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:37 pm

a couple skinny cobalts and aventurines. So, they turn black? On a mesh melt, are light colors the only options?
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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Brad Walker » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:26 am

Bonnie Rubinstein wrote: On a mesh melt, are light colors the only options?


I mostly use opaques and clears. Why would light colors be the only option?

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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Judd » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:02 pm

I have had the exact same reaction using the exact same colors. I think the culprit is the transparent yellow. Whenever I do strip construction, or mesh melts, the area where the transparent yellow touches the blue will always darken.

When you stack the glass, place transparent above and below each yellow to minimize the blending, or tell your consumers that you MEANT to do it that way!!! YES! You meant to blend those colors, which explains the PREMIUM price!

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Re: mesh melt turn black

Postby Bonnie Rubinstein » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:48 pm

hi all,
Thanks for the input.
I just spoke with Oceanside glass. Sent them the pics. This is the synopsis- I was working with reactive colors. Most of the time, at normal firing temps, this is not an issue . But at over 1600 degrees for mesh melts, this is.. the Copper based Blues and the Sulfur based Yellows react to make a deep burgundy and at higher temps, turns black. There you have it! So, they sent me a system 96 reactive chart: http://system96.com/Resources/System96ReactiveChart.pdf
This shows what colors are high to medium reactive, at the higher temps, even the medium reactives can get very dark.

So glad this is solved! Hope this helps others before they run into same situation.

Bonnie
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