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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:14 pm
by Ron Coleman
charlie wrote: typing? mistakes? do you put it on the computer screen? :?: is it in the same aisle as buggy whips?

i don't get it.
Yes, just past the sucker rods on the left.

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:23 pm
by Melissa Terman
Fun Fact:

Michael Nesmith's (of Monkees fame) mother invented Liquid Paper (aka White Out). When she invented this stuff to benefit the typing community, she had no idea what it would do for the arts as well.

FYI-In the "At The Bench" section of AJM magazine (Feb 2004), Alan Revere recommends using Correction Fluid to inhibit solder from melting in prior seams. But here's the interesting caveat regarding toxicity and I quote, "Note: Water-based correction fluids are less toxic than those that are solvent-based. In any event, after applying the liquid, let it air dry in a well ventilated area, and do not inhale the fumes."

I wish I had a well ventilated area so I don't inhale fumes. I really want to play with this stuff.

And thanks for this thread. When I do get a "well" ventilated space for my kiln, I'm gonna give this a try.

Regards,

Melissa

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:30 pm
by Brad Walker
Melissa Terman wrote:Michael Nesmith's (of Monkees fame) mother invented Liquid Paper (aka White Out). When she invented this stuff to benefit the typing community, she had no idea what it would do for the arts as well.
I think you left out a word. Mike Nesmith's mother invented "Liquid Paper" in 1951. IBM rejected the product, so she made it on her own and eventually sold out to Gillette.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mwhiteout.html

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:45 pm
by Liam
Dani wrote: What is in whiteout anyway?
I remember my dad shaking his head and saying "I'm getting too old"

I finally get it, but where did I put it.

Liam

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:04 pm
by Dani
Well, if the previous two posts are any indication of what happens in old age..... ROFLO. I never asked "what is whiteout" and the original post did say M.N.'s mother. And have you noticed how middle-aged people are constantly interrupting and butting into conversation? It's not because we're rude, it's because we can't hold that thought for the duration of the other person's sentence! Wait until all the boomers are old...ugly, very ugly. :shock:

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:31 pm
by frenchacidman
I would venture to guess the white is titanium dioxide. As for toxicity, straight out of the bottle beware of the solvents such as trichlor or perchlor
ethelene Etc, known to cause reproductive problems and nerve damage in humans and lab animals, most likely in copius amounts. The dried coating is basically safe until introduced to the kiln heat. Then beware of vapors released as the body or vehicle which bonded the titanium dioxide burns and is released into the air.
You might just acquire some titanium dioxide powder and try mixing it with water friendly medium, it would dry slower and work easier, possibly try using an airbrush. I remember seeing the railroad sideing next to the old Standard Brands Paint factory and how bright white (snow blinding) the ground and equipment where along the side of the factory from the escaped Titanium residue.
Pat

white out/liquid paper

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:39 pm
by Glenda Kronke
I wonder what this will do to elevate the 'percieved value' of fused glass.


...flamewar in 3.....2.....1

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:31 pm
by hoknok
typing? mistakes? do you put it on the computer screen? is it in the same aisle as buggy whips?
charlie, you must be blonde??? LOL :shock:
Soory, I could not resist.

As for toxic, well, hell, everything these days is toxic. Even good ole' sand. One of the largest stuff arround, makes me wonder how we survived all these years. :wink:

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:45 pm
by Dani
hoknok wrote:
typing? mistakes? do you put it on the computer screen? is it in the same aisle as buggy whips?
charlie, you must be blonde??? LOL :shock:
Soory, I could not resist.

Oh, dear. So, Charlie, are you blonde now?? :twisted: Charles, are you??

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:57 pm
by dee
charlie wrote:
dan001 wrote:The questions came to me more than once.


I guess their is another commecial name. White Liquid paper is the stuff that you can find at stationary store to erase a mistake made by typing. You apply this over your mistake and than re type on top and cannot see that you mess up.They use to sell them in small bottle, but my kids are now buying it for school in a Pen format, I know that they are also available in small tape as well.

The Commercial brand name that I used is Paper mateand the bottle is also called Correction fluid . It is apprarently made by Sandford, in Bellwood.Il 60104, a divison of Newell rubbermaid
thir si also a1-800-668-4575


Dan
typing? mistakes? do you put it on the computer screen? :?: is it in the same aisle as buggy whips?

i don't get it.
you must be having a blonde moment hehehehehehehehe
D

Liquid Paper

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:36 am
by Sharon Dunham
Since Liquid Paper comes in different colors has anyone tried something other than white??? :?:

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:20 am
by charlie
frenchacidman wrote:I would venture to guess the white is titanium dioxide. As for toxicity, straight out of the bottle beware of the solvents such as trichlor or perchlor
ethelene Etc, known to cause reproductive problems and nerve damage in humans and lab animals, most likely in copius amounts. The dried coating is basically safe until introduced to the kiln heat. Then beware of vapors released as the body or vehicle which bonded the titanium dioxide burns and is released into the air.
You might just acquire some titanium dioxide powder and try mixing it with water friendly medium, it would dry slower and work easier, possibly try using an airbrush. I remember seeing the railroad sideing next to the old Standard Brands Paint factory and how bright white (snow blinding) the ground and equipment where along the side of the factory from the escaped Titanium residue.
Pat
TiO2 is the main ingrediant in normal white house paint. you can probably get a tube of it at the paint store.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:23 am
by charlie
Dani wrote:
hoknok wrote:
typing? mistakes? do you put it on the computer screen? is it in the same aisle as buggy whips?
charlie, you must be blonde??? LOL :shock:
Soory, I could not resist.

Oh, dear. So, Charlie, are you blonde now?? :twisted: Charles, are you??
does gray count as blonde?

blonds/White Out

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:41 pm
by Queenbee
Does dyed blond count as blond? I'm digging the conversation on this whiteout. It's true. Everything is toxic or hasn't proven to be non-toxic over a period of time. I say, let's just throw all kinds of junk on our glass and see what happens! I'll probably die of all the dye i've put on my head over the years!

Re: blonds/White Out

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:47 pm
by charlie
Queenbee wrote:Does dyed blond count as blond? I'm digging the conversation on this whiteout. It's true. Everything is toxic or hasn't proven to be non-toxic over a period of time. I say, let's just throw all kinds of junk on our glass and see what happens! I'll probably die of all the dye i've put on my head over the years!
well, maybe. http://www.healthlink.mcw.edu/article/983226059.html

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:20 pm
by Jack Bowman
Patty Gray wrote:I was told that white out has some health warnings, that it might do something with the brain or nerves. Anyone know about this? We used white out and had great results on the surface of glass and even on the bottom. Since the warning of hazards with the use I stopped using it. Health/hazard warning??

Patty
http://www.pattygray.com
Seems a while back, children of all ages were inhaling it to alter their perception. That may have something to do with the toxic label.

Jack

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:34 pm
by Stuart Clayman
How come when I put white out on the screen to correct my typing it does not scroll with the posting?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:45 pm
by Brad Walker
Stuart Clayman wrote:How come when I put white out on the screen to correct my typing it does not scroll with the posting?
You have to pick your monitor up and throw it on the floor a couple of times.

Then it will scroll.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:48 pm
by Stuart Clayman
I don't know about scrolling, but if it lands just right it rolls, but then it's blond wig comes off.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:32 pm
by Brook
Hey,

Here is another use for White Out... :)

Several years ago my daughter (Now 21) tried using white out on a couple of stains she aquired on her "white" shirt... She thought I would never see the spots... after all she used "white out"... :-$ ](*,) Kids do the darnest things.. #-o by the way the white out didn't wash out but th koolaid did spread out from under the edges of the white out...

I put that story in the same category as her using deoderant for the first time...

The day after I bought some for her she announced she needed another bottle of deoderant!!! She was walking verrwee, verrwee, carefully :-k :-s as she was announcing her latest request from the store. She apparently used it EVERYWHERE.. by that I mean all sides of her arms & legs, stomach and any where else she could reach... she was surprised to learn where you ACTUALLY use it.. of course she knew everything and wasn't going to listen or ask Mom.... :doubt: :oops:

just had to share...

by the way, I love using both those stories in front of the new Boyfriend...

Brook