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Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby GlassCat » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:09 am

Hi all, first I want to say I have learned so much from the knowledge on this board and the wonderful books I have purchased written by some of the board members. Thanks to you all for sharing so much. I am getting ready for summer shows and wanted to add some garden art to my display this year. This prompted me to try some garden plant stakes, but I am stumped on how to attach, or what to use to attach the metal rod.

My idea is to have the rod removable for ease of storing and shipping. Everything I have seen is with the metal rod epoxied to the back of the glass. I have tried sandwiching a 14G copper wire in between the glass to use but the wire really loses it's strength in the process of fusing. I am thinking of some kind of metal flange or bracket that would have a stop so the metal stake would not keep sliding past the top of the glass--any ideas you can share would be much appreciated.

Thanks Carol

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby Stephen Richard » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:40 pm

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby GlassCat » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:01 pm

Thanks Stephen, I had thought of something like this but decided I really didn't want to glue the rod in. Thinking ahead to shipping, would like the rod to be removable. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of having a strap glued to the back of the piece and sliding the rod in but am stumped on what to use for the gluing on part.

Carol

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby Tom Fuhrman » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:55 am

try silicone. also try high temp wire instead of copper wire,or drill holes in glass and attached bracket with screws and rubber washers.

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby mwalker2992 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:04 am

I drill a hole in the glass, then attach a copper tube to the glass using a screw and a washer. This has worked very well for me. Easy to assemble and disassemble for shipping purposes. Message me if you need further info.
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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby GlassCat » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:30 am

Thanks Tom and Margaret, great idea. I never thought of that and I love drilling holes. I will give that a try.

Carol

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby rosanna gusler » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:37 pm

GlassCat wrote:Thanks Tom and Margaret, great idea. I never thought of that and I love drilling holes. I will give that a try.

Carol

i hate drilling holes. what drill bits do you use? r.
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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby GlassCat » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:44 pm

rosanna gusler wrote:
i hate drilling holes. what drill bits do you use? r.


Rosanna, I was kidding! :wink:

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby rosanna gusler » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:12 pm

GlassCat wrote:
rosanna gusler wrote:
i hate drilling holes. what drill bits do you use? r.


Rosanna, I was kidding! :wink:

damn. here i was hoping that drilling holes did not really suck and i was just doing it all wrong. another bubble burst. r.
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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby Stephen Richard » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:24 pm

Glasscat
You don't have to glue the rods into the holes, if you don't want them to permanent.
Rosanna,
I wouldn't say I love drilling holes, but I have drilled a lot - around a thousand on one project.
Core drill bits of good quality, treated well and a quality drill press. I use one made for drilling glass, not one of the pillar drills with a flushing head.
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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby S.TImmerman » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:14 am

Here's another way to do it.

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby JestersBaubles » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:15 pm

S.TImmerman wrote:Here's another way to do it.

:)

Nice! Much better than drilling holes.

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby GlassCat » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:20 am

S.TImmerman wrote:Here's another way to do it.

:)

That is exactly what I was looking for, what did you use? Did you create that piece from glass or is it a found hardware piece and did you glue the rod in then?

Carol

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby haleybach » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:59 pm

GlassCat wrote:
S.TImmerman wrote:Here's another way to do it.

:)

That is exactly what I was looking for, what did you use? Did you create that piece from glass or is it a found hardware piece and did you glue the rod in then?

Carol


Since you don't want to glue the rod in, you could use o-rings (black rubber rings that they have at hardware stores, I'm not really sure what they are intended for but the work well for this type of thing). I've used them this way. They have a little give to them so you can get a nice tight fit. Slide on and slide off, takes a little effort which is good, they stay when you want them to. I would put one above and one below the rod pocket, or two below if it seems like you need more strength. You could glue the bottom one on if you wanted to.

Haley.

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby GlassCat » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:44 pm

Thank you Haley, that sounds perfect and just what I was looking for. Will give it a try.

CAROL

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Re: Attaching a metal rod to Garden Art

Postby S.TImmerman » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:27 am

Hi, , I just cut small clear glass rectangles and slumped them over fiber rope. I unraveled the rope so it was just 1 of 3 of the strands. Depending on how large the rod is.
Once it's slumped remove the rope and use silicon glue. I used thin rods from home depo and cut them in half. Slather the silicon glue over the rod and slip in.

You can also lay a larger piece of glass over a longer peice of fiber rope and then cut them after fusing. So you can make several at a time.



You can also situate the glass over the end of the rope so the rod can just slip in. You would want to make sure the rope is very straight (of course) and use a larger rectangle of glass.

Hope this makes sense. If you'd like more photos (or help) I'm happy to send some.

Yea!! Finally able to help someone else after all the help I've received!


Hope the weather warms up for everyone like it is here!

Shereen


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