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Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:18 pm
by Suzette A
Hello everyone,

Ive been working with metal clay for a while but I would like to try my hand at glass working. I have a firefly kiln with digital controler (and window). A few hand tools such as files, dremmel, wet dry paper and kiln wash but not much else.

What I would like to do is start with some simple fusing and slumping projects like small dishes, tiles, night lights. But I am on a very tight budget.

I would like some recommendations for must have tools (and best place to buy). And if possible, can someone supply links to free projects?

Because my budget is so tight Ive been thinking about using recycled glass. I have been perusing various web sites reading up on this. Do you use recycled glass? Can you explain your feelings about using recycled glass? pros and cons?

Finally, I have questions about safety. Ive been using my kiln in a spare bedroom as there really isnt a better option. Ive not been happy with my set up as the room is carpeted and the table I have for my kiln is not the most stable. Would placing cement backer board under the kiln offer adequate protection? Also, I am short, 5 feet tall, and I have had a hard time finding a kiln stand that is low enough. Would cinder bricks work to raise the kiln sufficiently and safely? Safety is one the biggest reasons I havent used my kiln in a while!

Thanks your comments and help!

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:30 am
by DonMcClennen
I'm sure your home insurance would not cover a fire caused by a kiln in a room with "carpet". Melting glass in this situation is just to risky to be worthwhile. The amount of time it takes to properly heat, anneal then cool glass, will make leaving the kiln unattended inevitable ..Sticking contacts, and other possible happenings would make this set-up an invitation to trouble. I would advise against it!

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:49 am
by Judd
Uh... yeah.
1) Firing on carpet is a bad idea, and cement backer board will not be enough. Rip out the carpet or fire somewhere else.
2) I love recycled glass. Get window glass and some low-fire glazes (like the stuff they sell at the Glaze-It-Yourself pottery shops) and start experimenting.
3) Once you have a suitable floor (like concrete), then setting the kiln on cinder block should be fine.

How big is your kiln? Because you said you fired metal clay, I just assumed it's very small. If that's the case, then you can always make jewelry.

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:49 am
by Judd
Uh... yeah.
1) Firing on carpet is a bad idea, and cement backer board will not be enough. Rip out the carpet or fire somewhere else.
2) I love recycled glass. Get window glass and some low-fire glazes (like the stuff they sell at the Glaze-It-Yourself pottery shops) and start experimenting.
3) Once you have a suitable floor (like concrete), then setting the kiln on cinder block should be fine.

How big is your kiln? Because you said you fired metal clay, I just assumed it's very small. If that's the case, then you can always make jewelry.

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:20 pm
by AndyT
Judd wrote:Uh... yeah.
1) Firing on carpet is a bad idea, and cement backer board will not be enough. Rip out the carpet or fire somewhere else.
2) I love recycled glass. Get window glass and some low-fire glazes (like the stuff they sell at the Glaze-It-Yourself pottery shops) and start experimenting.
3) Once you have a suitable floor (like concrete), then setting the kiln on cinder block should be fine.

How big is your kiln? Because you said you fired metal clay, I just assumed it's very small. If that's the case, then you can always make jewelry.
the Firefly kiln takes a 7" shelf.

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:28 pm
by Suzette A
ok I get the message! :lol:

No carpet. Ill find another place for my kiln.

What about using found objects for molds/ forms? How about rocks?
Im eager to get started!

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:32 am
by rosanna gusler
There is a great tutorial on this site. Start there. Brad walkers books(also available here) are great as well. Welcome to the addiction. R.

Re: Intro, tight budget beginner

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:31 pm
by Judd
Not rocks. They could crack/pop in the kiln.
If you want a found mold, find bisqued pottery, terracotta pots or stainless steel bowls. Anything else may melt, warp, crack, etc.