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Glass with ceramic inclusion?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:04 pm
by Chloe White
Hello,
I'm new to this group and to glass. But I'm hoping to find out if it's possible to combine ceramic and glass by casting glass with fired ceramic inclusions. (I am primarily a ceramic sculptor.) However, I have seen it done successfully.

My first experiments have shown me that there's probably something mismatched in the expansion and contraction of materials, as the glass fractured anywhere that it surrounded the ceramic; the rest of the glass looked fine. Is it something that could be addressed by a different firing schedule? We used a standard bullseye schedule.

Does anyone have experience of doing this? I know I am possibly trying to run before I can walk... is it impossible?

Thanks, Chloe

Re: Glass with ceramic inclusion?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:35 pm
by Kevin Midgley
You have seen it done successfully.
Well have you seen the same piece still successfully together with no cracking a year or more later?

Glass has the ability to show the errors in compatibility a long long time after an item has been made.

I was given a piece years ago that was disintegrating. Still is. Looked great when it was first made.

I keep it as an example of incompatibility and a reminder of what can happen.

Re: Glass with ceramic inclusion?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:56 pm
by Chloe White
Hi Kevin,
Well, I'm assuming the pieces I've seen have lasted. I can't actually know for sure. In particular I'm thinking of work I've seen by Christina Bothwell who I believe makes quality, lasting work. Google her... you'll see what I mean

Re: Glass with ceramic inclusion?

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:46 am
by Peter McCarthy
Are you sure Christina Bothwell's work has ceramic inclusions? It looks to me like cast glass attached to stone and ceramic, and any inclusions are differently-colored glass.

Re: Glass with ceramic inclusion?

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:30 am
by Chloe White
No, I'm not 100% sure... that could be, Peter. I see pieces where she clearly attaches clay and glass together after the firings. However, I see some pieces which look to be ceramic within glass such as her fish and mermaids pieces... do those also look like glass within glass to you? I'm sorry not be able to figure out how to upload specific photos here

Re: Glass with ceramic inclusion?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:53 am
by Peter McCarthy
I'm guessing, too. You should ask her.