Hi All,
I dislike coating molds, and kiln shelves, with a Hake Brush....orthodoxy says use one.....without ever explaining why.....nor how to avoid the endless shedding these things put out, much like a long haired dog.
Questioning Authority leads me to ask, WHY ?
I understand from Googling other site sources that Hake Brushes hold a boatload of water, which gives good results puddling kiln wash, onto said mold or kiln shelf, also their fine-ness prevents dislodging previous layers of material as multiple layers are needed to effectively coat a shelf or mold.
I wonder if back in the day , this was a good cheap solution to getting good coverage without crumbling off the previous layer on successive coatings.
Does anyone know of a technologically advanced manual alternative ( thus not air brush, etc ) be it a type of paint brush , or alternative method that would accomplish this task without endless holidays and the requisite picking out of stray hairs....maybe I should just use a long haired dog  though that would introduce a whole new set of problems , what with squirming and all. <G>
There are endless varieties of these type brushes available in Japan, and they are used to paint with....(houses) and for the life of me I don't know how they manage....
thanks,
Randy
			
			
									
						
										
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				Bert Weiss
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Re: Hake Brushes
You can spray it on with a mouth atomizer or it's automated cousin the Paasche 62 sprayer.  
The mouth atomizer is what I call " a cheap thrill."
			
			
									
						
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Re: Hake Brushes
They manage because they use high quality brushes.  Really, most of the brushes we get are inferior.
You can spray batt wash on with a mouth atomiser if you like. Need to mix the separator more thinly, and so apply more coats. But it works
			
			
									
						
							You can spray batt wash on with a mouth atomiser if you like. Need to mix the separator more thinly, and so apply more coats. But it works
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Re: Hake Brushes
If they are falling out in the store then they aren't the ones you want to use.   Try a pottery supply place and pay the premium.   Synthetics will work but if you like to apply the wash to a pre-warmed shelf, they may just melt and cause other problems.
			
			
									
						
										
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Re: Hake Brushes
Potters use Hake brushes to brush transparent glaze onto bisqued fired ceramics. 
They trim the hake brush bristles down to 1/2 the original length.
You could use sharp scissors or a sharp blade to trim the bristles.
I'm planing to try this soon and I will let you know the results.
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							They trim the hake brush bristles down to 1/2 the original length.
You could use sharp scissors or a sharp blade to trim the bristles.
I'm planing to try this soon and I will let you know the results.
Pete
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Re: Hake Brushes
I use a high quality paint brush for all my shelves and molds.  Works great with no shedding.
			
			
									
						
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Re: Hake Brushes
I use the cheap foam brushs you buy at any hardware store and they work fine. Leave them in the kiln wash and they last a long time. Which ever brush you use if you want a smoother finish on the shelf use an old pair of nylons and rub lightly.
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Re: Hake Brushes
I used to use a small paint roller to apply wash to shelves.
Then I switched to spraying on with a garden sprayer.
(With both methods, I needed to smooth the wash a bit when it was dry.)
In past years I've gone back to the brush, deciding it's simpler. I simply wipe off the few stray hairs when the wash is dry.
			
			
									
						
										
						Then I switched to spraying on with a garden sprayer.
(With both methods, I needed to smooth the wash a bit when it was dry.)
In past years I've gone back to the brush, deciding it's simpler. I simply wipe off the few stray hairs when the wash is dry.