Glass to fuse with float

PaulOz · Post by **PaulOz** » Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:48 am

Has anyone come across a glass that is fusible to float glass. I have seen something recently which looks like frits tack fused onto a piece of glass, however the glass is very definately float glass, and the frits look to be like a glass as well. They crush like glass and look like glass in all respects. Just was a bit intrigued and havent found anything on the net

Paul

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:20 am

hi
Vidriarte in Spain have a range of accessory glass for use on float. I have actually just taken a small square bowl out of the kiln on which I used all their frit colors on float and am very impressed with the results They have a web site Just do a search for Flosing Glass or Vidriarte Glass
Hope this helps
Ian

Tom White · Post by **Tom White** » Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:35 am

C&R Loo also sells frit & confetti for float http://www.crloo.com/

Best wishes,
Tom in Texas

daffodildeb · Post by **daffodildeb** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:47 pm

Check out Armstrong Glass--their website announces a new float glass compatible line.

Lauri Levanto · Post by **Lauri Levanto** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:44 am

Don't ecpect too much,

a friend of mine fused diiferent thicknesses of float.
It came out of the kiln OK,
but fell in pieces next day.

When float is not float compatible,
which float the float compatible is
compatible with?

-lauri

Don Burt · Post by **Don Burt** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:17 am

lauri wrote:
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When float is not float compatible,
which float the float compatible is
compatible with?

-lauri

A proclamation of despair in the human condition. I could see that on a Kathe Kollwitz poster.

Bert Weiss · Post by **Bert Weiss** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:40 am

lauri wrote:Don't ecpect too much,

a friend of mine fused diiferent thicknesses of float.
It came out of the kiln OK,
but fell in pieces next day.

When float is not float compatible,
which float the float compatible is
compatible with?

-lauri

This is why I use Ferro china paints that are compatible with all float as well as systems 90 and 96. The thin layer is friendly to all of these glasses. You can get Ferro in OZ. Sunshine and Samba series china overglaze colors. They just changed corporate hands again. I forget what they are called now. They originally were Deguza.

Brock · Post by **Brock** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:44 am

This is why I use Ferro china paints that are compatible with all float as well as systems 90 and 96. The thin layer is friendly to all of these glasses. You can get Ferro in OZ. Sunshine and Samba series china overglaze colors. They just changed corporate hands again. I forget what they are called now. They originally were Deguza.

I doubt very much that they are truly compatible, they are just applied thinly enough to not have enough volume to be a problem. Brock

Kevin Midgley · Post by **Kevin Midgley** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:24 pm

Same goes for Thompson enamels. I've had problems in thick applications. You can get away with a lot fusing different materials together but there is always that chance for a problem. I have one Thompson colour right now that either they sent me some wrong coe enamel or I have to apply it realllly thinly because it cracks with any colour density.

Bert Weiss · Post by **Bert Weiss** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:11 pm

Kevin Midgley wrote:Same goes for Thompson enamels. I've had problems in thick applications. You can get away with a lot fusing different materials together but there is always that chance for a problem. I have one Thompson colour right now that either they sent me some wrong coe enamel or I have to apply it realllly thinly because it cracks with any colour density.

I quit using Thompson for that reason. Cracked up glass is not the result we are picturing. Frits are thick enough that it really matters.

Bert Weiss · Post by **Bert Weiss** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:17 pm

Brock wrote:This is why I use Ferro china paints that are compatible with all float as well as systems 90 and 96. The thin layer is friendly to all of these glasses. You can get Ferro in OZ. Sunshine and Samba series china overglaze colors. They just changed corporate hands again. I forget what they are called now. They originally were Deguza.

I doubt very much that they are truly compatible, they are just applied thinly enough to not have enough volume to be a problem. Brock

The bottom line is that they are fused in to the glass for antiquity. That's what I would call compatible. I have done tiles where I splash on color and cook it in. The color sinks in like a full flat fuse. The surface is hard and smooth and glassy. some places colored other places clear.

If you tried to fuse a big chunk of remelted enamel on to some glass there would surely be issues, but used as directed they work. I have been successful at tempering enameled float which is always a good test for stress.

Tom White · Post by **Tom White** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:05 am

Paul, Chinapainters use an adhesive that fires to cone 022, about 1100 F, to adhere clear or colored glass beads to china. The same materials should also work on glass. The adhesive is at the bottom of the first page in the following link and the glass beads are at the top of the next page after clicking on the "more" button. http://store.thegoodstuff.com/Default.asp

Best wishes,
Tom in Texas