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Unclean! Unclean!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:38 pm
by Brock
I just ran a virus check on my computer. In my inimitable Luddite fashion, I have no protection installed, I've never even backed up any information.

18, 801 files

3.2 GB

25 virusii!

Thanks, Paul Stevenson, for this link:


http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:46 pm
by PaulS
You're welcome Brock, I just hope you backup your vital stuff like accounts and designs!!! Just imagine losing years and years of work because some punk computer vandal wants to make name for himself.

With such fame, Symantec and McAfee offers them a job to write virus killer software.

Re: Unclean! Unclean!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:25 pm
by BobB
Brock wrote:I just ran a virus check on my computer. In my inimitable Luddite fashion, I have no protection installed, I've never even backed up any information.

18, 801 files

3.2 GB

25 virusii!
A hackers dream!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:40 pm
by lauren
good program, thanks for the link!

i like the 'virus' removed by healing' summary at the end

there was some laying on of hands on my computer tonight. hehe.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:10 pm
by Don Burt
We self-righteous sysadms have a saying that there are only two categories of backup practitioners: those who back-up their systems currently, and those that will.

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:34 am
by charlie holden
There are a lot of reasons to back up besides viruses. Like mechanical stuff. This weekend my track pad button on my laptop broke while I was on the road. Couldn't do much of anything until I got home and plugged a regular mouse into the back.

Remember Murphy's law.

BTW, interesting site and topic -- What's your law?

http://www.edge.org

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:38 am
by Gale aka artistefem
Oops! Double post!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:38 am
by Gale aka artistefem
Brock......how's this for protection - LOL?

We have two firewalls & a virus search and destroy program and even this doesn't keep the buggers out.

My system has been getting slower and slower, so two days ago, I installed a spyware search and destroy program. I found 158 nasties in my computer: info trackers, browser highjackers and trackers that were embedded in software programs that I have purchased for use.

These trackers slow your computer down because they are constantly monitering and talking to your computer - sending your personal info to their parent companies....... And browser high-jackers??? Don't even get me started on these pieces of____________work!

These spyware programs should be run once a week. Just for kicks, I ran it again last night and in the space of 24 hours, had picked up 18 new trackers and 1 high-jacker. I had goggled only 3 times, read my email and checked the board during that space of time.

Makes me want to go buy an island and just hibernate. Folks, there is no privacy anymore. Big Bro has our number and is dialing it!

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:32 pm
by ellen abbott
Brock, Paul...does the free download have a Mac version?

E

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:37 pm
by Brock
ellen abbott wrote:Brock, Paul...does the free download have a Mac version?

E
I just looked and didn't see one. Brock

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:41 pm
by charlie
ellen abbott wrote:Brock, Paul...does the free download have a Mac version?

E
there doesn't need to be one, since mac's are immune to almost every one of the latest versions of malware.

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:51 pm
by Brock

for mac users

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:38 pm
by BobB
charlie wrote:
ellen abbott wrote:Brock, Paul...does the free download have a Mac version?

E
there doesn't need to be one, since mac's are immune to almost every one of the latest versions of malware.
For Mac users.

http://service1.symantec.com/support/nu ... ar_sch_nam

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:57 pm
by Gale aka artistefem
http://www.spyware.com

for those of you who are interested.

$29.95 for the software download.

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:09 pm
by ellen abbott
Gotta love a Mac.

E

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:40 am
by charlie holden
Here's an article from "Security Focus" magazine on an FBI agent's visit to a computer class. It is not technical at all. There is some pretty scary stuff as well as some pretty funny stuff.

He has some interesting things to say about Macs as well.

In the discussion below the article a couple of people have posted that the newest Mac OS is built from the ground up to work on a network, so it has lots of security features built in. It can encrypt your entire hard drive on the fly if you want.

http://www.securityfocus.com/cgi-bin/sf ... .pl?id=215

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:03 pm
by Paul Tarlow
charlie wrote:
ellen abbott wrote:Brock, Paul...does the free download have a Mac version?

E
there doesn't need to be one, since mac's are immune to almost every one of the latest versions of malware.
True -- but it has nothing to do with having better technology. A mac is less likely to be hit with a virus because mac's don't have enough market share to interest virus writers. The enormous installed base of Windows make Windows the preferred target.

Also of interest, almost all anti-virus development by McAfee and Symantec (Norton) is done overseas in some very specific countries. Interestingly (but probably not suprisingly) the same countries usually end up being origination points for many of the viruses. Don Corleone probably wishes he'd come up with the idea first :)

- Paul

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:58 am
by acrawford
I have had a Mac for 3 and a half years. Viruses? Never! My answer to the issue is to give Gates the gate and get a Mac!

Have any of you Mac users had viri?

Always curious, Ailsa

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:15 am
by ellen abbott
Not that I'm aware of. I've always been a Mac user and we got our first one in 1987! I know people who have switched from PCs to Macs but never the other way around.

E

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:07 am
by Lynne Chappell
OK, I would like to have another program check my computer. I have Norton protection, but my computer is behaving as if there is something else going on behind the scene (weird memory lapses, slow-downs, etc). Norton says no viruses. But...

Now I may be totally paranoid, but the link that was posted - I've never heard of these guys, are they absolutely, totally above suspicion? I don't download files or invite some outside entity to browse around my harddrive without assurances. I once downloaded CuteFTP on the advice of my internet provider only to discover that the spyware it put on my harddrive was still there after I deleted the program. It caused all kinds of errors until it became common knowledge and I had it deleted. The only downloads I do (other than stealing pictures), are from Norton or Microsoft.

Lynne