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Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:38 pm
by Mustafa Umut Sarac
Is there an art form called plastic blowing where people uses hot or cold plastic as a blowing material ? I need extreme high refractive , colorable , plastics to create big dancing , deforming multilayers.

I welcome every kind of suggestions , please stop by and post an idea.

Thank you very much ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac
Istanbul

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:46 pm
by Judd
On a glass message board? Not one bit demanding, right?

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:18 pm
by Rick Wilton
Since Dale Chihuly does this, then NO it's not a bad question.

It's called Polyvitro, Dale coined the term (I believe)

http://www.chihuly.com/pandanus-lake-bl ... etail.aspx
http://www.chihuly.com/silvered-plum-an ... etail.aspx

http://www.glassfacts.info/indexcfe2.html?fid=92

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:20 pm
by jolly
You might also trying asking at a glassblowers forum. This is primarily a kiln glass forum. The glassblowers may know more about it.

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:20 pm
by Mustafa Umut Sarac
Thank you Rick,

I googled it and its a polyurethane and polyethylene use with dyes. If they cast in to molds , its a little bit in order technique. Is there anyone who formulated the recipes for these plastics. May be there are 100000 different polyurethane formula out there. He claims , its totally different technique than glass.

I am looking for a plastic which in form of hot glass. How can we find the technical terms defines the studio glass hot and search for a plastic like an honey and can be heated and blowed.

I need the technological terms , science behind the hot plastic and hot glass terminology.

If anyone could shed a light on this material search , I would be glad.

Umut
Istanbul

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:21 pm
by Mustafa Umut Sarac
What is the URL of glass blowers forum ?

Thank you ,

Umut

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:26 pm
by Brock

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:34 pm
by Don Burt
Brock wrote:Try here: http://talk.craftweb.com/
This could be an amusing dialog.

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:40 pm
by Marty
Don Burt wrote:
Brock wrote:Try here: http://talk.craftweb.com/
This could be an amusing dialog.
You sure you never pulled wings off flies as a child?

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:54 am
by Don Burt
Marty wrote:
Don Burt wrote:
Brock wrote:Try here: http://talk.craftweb.com/
This could be an amusing dialog.
You sure you never pulled wings off flies as a child?
I honestly am one of those who purposely doesn't rubberneck when passing an accident. However on the internet, I'll watch nearly anything.

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:53 pm
by jolly
We have a plastics supply store in our area. They sell all sorts of plastics and I would start there. So look up plastic retailers to get a start or look for their websites. There are many companies that form plastics for different purposes so if you keep calling places that sell plastics, you should eventually find someone that can give you some possibilities.

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:25 pm
by Tom Fuhrman
Dale, from what i was told, bought an existing company that was already developing this techinque and it was established by a chemist that worked to formulate the right plastic that would work. As I recall that was in the early to mid 90's. It may be a little tricky trying to get the actual composition of what they have used. Dale has not been one to share many things when it comes to technique.
Some people with a good understanding of blowmolding and vacuum forming would be a good place to start.

Re: Plastic Blowing Art Form , Plastics acting like glass

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:30 am
by arteclectic
it appears that PolyVitro is a urethane resin polymer.....that would send me to one of the resin casting houses for info. I would suggest contacting Excel-Cast in Indiana. http://www.excel-cast.com/. They may be able to point you in a direction on a possible supplier in Istanbul. I also know that mannequins (high end!!) are produced in Istanbul and these are also made from resin so they might be able to find a supplier-- knowing that you are looking for a specific kind of urethane.