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Getting rid of devit

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:21 pm
by Havi
Hello again dear friends,


My piece is finally OK, even though still in the cold kiln.
I see some devit on it, especially on the edges [all of them, east-west, north-south]


This piece needs to be kiln-formed, which means I shall have to return it to the kiln for another time. The firing schedule will be similar to the way Moje slumps his pieces - which will necessitate going as high as 1382 degrees. So I shall have the opportunity of fire polishing the piece.

However, first I believe I got to get rid of the devit.
I think that the best would be to sandblast it away - - - but I have no sandblaster. I can get to go to a colleague who has, before doing this, I'd like to examine other options.
1. Is it possible to grind a little bit the devit area?
2. Is it possible [the easiest for me] to sprinkle some clear transparent glass powder before firing?
3. or spread some some spray A on the piece?

Do I HAVE to sandblast the piece?

Have you ever experienced a similar situation,
What worked for you???? [if at all]


Many thanks in advance
Havi

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:19 am
by Stephen Richard
I suggest very fine wet and dry sandpaper to get the devit off. Frit and spray often do not stay on the curved edges thickly enough to do the job.

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:54 pm
by thebige61
Etching cream is also a good option.

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:16 pm
by Havi
Thanks,
Can you please detail?
I do not understand , can I get rid of devit by using etching cream? This also makes the glass opaque...


Many thanks,


Havi

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:46 pm
by thebige61
Well I'm making the assumption you would be fire polishing after using the cream. I'm inclined to think that sand blasting would render the glass opaque as well. I just re-read your post and it looks like you plan on fire polishing. That should make your piece shiny again no matter what method you use.

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:28 am
by Havi
I have not yet opened the kiln.
But I piped , it seems that everything is fire polished . In the places where there was devit, I applied diluted Spray A, it seems to have worked.

I'll keep in mind the idea of acid polishing as an option for cleaning before fire polishing. Have you got a real experience that acid etch can be fire polished?



Thanks,
Havi

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:10 am
by haleybach
Yes, you can fire polish after using acid etch, just like after sand blasting.
I find a dip easier to use than a cream, but it depends on what you are doing with it.

I know a fused glass artist that dips anything she cuts on a tile saw or uses a grinder on as part of her cleaning process, and she claims doing this prevents devit almost every time.

The active ingredient is "Ammonium Bifluoride"

Re: Getting rid of devit

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:10 am
by Havi
OK guys here is the final result, kilnformed. Without devit, without any dirt.
No marks of the horrible cracks this piece had. Unbelievable . Lucky I have photos to prove that it was broken, especially around the central image.

I used Spray A, diluted it first with regular water, applied very thin layer [I found out, the heavier layers become white thru firing]
I am posting 2 photos - of the face of the piece, and of its back.
I would appreciate suggestions / ideas as how to present it, OR links to where I would be able to look at ideas
many thanks,
Thanks for 'listening' to me, and advising
Always greatful,
Havi
PS
I would like to mention that the white line you see at the back of the piece is not a crack or a score . IT is what was the end of the mesh melt before. Under the heat and the weight of the clear glass, it spread , but it kept the previous 'border' of the melt. Perhaps had I sandblasted it - I would have been able to prevent this.
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