Air Brush recomendations

Lauralei · Post by **Lauralei** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 8:06 am

Can you share recomendations for air brush brands? I want to use it primarily for spraying mica powders and enamels?
thanks !

robertb · Post by **robertb** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 8:58 am

Hi Lauralei, I recently purchased the aztec as suggested by Avery Anderson have not used it yet .
robert

Pat Loboda · Post by **Pat Loboda** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:22 am

I plan on buying an airbrush soon, and I would also buy the Aztek, as recommended by Avery. In addition, I would buy it from Brad Walker - his price is hard to beat!

Pat

Lauralei · Post by **Lauralei** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:22 am

I thought I read somewhere that she had recomended that brand, but I couln't find it in any archived posts.. Can you tell me what model you got? thanks

Carol · Post by **Carol** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:35 am

Aztec 4709

Did you look in the old Archives? There's tons of info in there.

Brad Walker · Post by **Brad Walker** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 11:47 am

The Aztek that Avery uses and recommends is the Aztek A4709. It's a top of the line model and the only one I carry or sell: http://www.warmglass.com/Aztek.htm

robertb · Post by **robertb** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:00 pm

Brad Walker wrote:The Aztek that Avery uses and recommends is the Aztek A4709. It's a top of the line model and the only one I carry or sell: http://www.warmglass.com/Aztek.htm

That's the one I have

charlie · Post by **charlie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:56 pm

Brad Walker wrote:The Aztek that Avery uses and recommends is the Aztek A4709. It's a top of the line model and the only one I carry or sell: http://www.warmglass.com/Aztek.htm

not to anger the board moderator, but they come up on ebay a lot. i managed to get a brand new one for about $60, but i had to participate in a LOT of auctions to get one at that price. the only thing is that it didn't include the videotape that is supposed to come with it.

there's not too much risk that you can receive a broken one. the manufacturer has a lifetime guarantee on them. if it ever doesn't work, you send it in and they fix/rebuild it for free.

Brad Walker · Post by **Brad Walker** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:04 pm

$60 is a great price, Charlie, and less than I pay for them as a distributor. And you're right about the lifetime guarantee, it's a great feature.

Don Burt · Post by **Don Burt** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:22 pm

I saw in an airbrush magazine that aztek was making a metal-bodied version of the 4709. Sort of an upscale Delorean version.

I love my badger 100LG for glass paint. I have a aztek 4709 too that works fine for most things.

Carol · Post by **Carol** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:24 pm

Do y'all use your aztecs for spraying kiln wash? I sprayed a ss bowl using the coarsest tip in the kit and it seemed to plug up a lot. I mixed the kiln wash thinner than usual. Any thoughts?

charlie · Post by **charlie** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:27 pm

Carol wrote:Do y'all use your aztecs for spraying kiln wash? I sprayed a ss bowl using the coarsest tip in the kit and it seemed to plug up a lot. I mixed the kiln wash thinner than usual. Any thoughts?

yes. thin it more than usual, use higher pressure (i use 80-85 psi), and i use the white tip. different tips have different shaped or size orifices.

Don Burt · Post by **Don Burt** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:06 pm

Carol wrote:Do y'all use your aztecs for spraying kiln wash? I sprayed a ss bowl using the coarsest tip in the kit and it seemed to plug up a lot. I mixed the kiln wash thinner than usual. Any thoughts?

I tried spaying kiln wash with my el cheapo Paasche external feed. It sprayed-on, but it resulted in a wierd surface texture. Comparable to good watercolor paper. It was ceramic-store-bought kiln wash. Looked like the droplets dried before they hit the shelf and sort of dusted it, but the coating doesn't fall off. Kind of micropebbly (hey I like that word ...(tm)).

Do you kiln wash sprayers usually get a surface as smooth as with a haik brush?

Ron Coleman · Post by **Ron Coleman** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 8:44 pm

db wrote:
I tried spaying kiln wash with my el cheapo Paasche external feed. It sprayed-on, but it resulted in a wierd surface texture. Comparable to good watercolor paper. It was ceramic-store-bought kiln wash. Looked like the droplets dried before they hit the shelf and sort of dusted it, but the coating doesn't fall off. Kind of micropebbly (hey I like that word ...(tm)).

Do you kiln wash sprayers usually get a surface as smooth as with a haik brush?

I'm using an airbrush for kilnwash and you do get a grainy texture like fine sand. You can rub it smooth with your palm if you want a finer finish.

Better than a brush finish? Maybe not, but no brush marks. Not nearly as fast either, considering the cleanup time. So why do I spray? I like the grainy finish.

Ron

Tony Smith · Post by **Tony Smith** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:17 pm

I use an automotive detail gun for spaying kilnwash... it works great but you have to deal with the overspray.

For spraying micas, I use the top of the line Aztek, the bottom of the line Aztek and a couple of different Badger siphon airbrushes... they all do a good job, but I really like the Azteks because you can spray straight down with them.

The bottom of the line Aztek is about $100 cheaper than the top of the line, but takes a little getting used to. It's just a single action and not as ergonomically designed... but it uses the same tips and bottles.

Tony

Al Bray · Post by **Al Bray** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:32 am

Not sure if you have a Michaels Arts & Crafts Crafts in your area or not....But this past Saturday I was shopping at the one here in Lansing Michigan and was surprised to see that they had the Aztec A4709 Clearanced out for 60.00. I couldn't believe my eyes and thought for sure it was a different model and didn't pick one up.

But after remembering this thread and confirming the model number, I think I am going to go back this afternoon and pick one up so when I get to the point of trying enamels and micas, I will have it available.

- Al

Tony Smith · Post by **Tony Smith** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:05 am

Al,

I saw the same model on clearance here in Massachusetts... they must be eliminating that model from the chain.

Tony

Al Bray · Post by **Al Bray** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:42 pm

Tony Smith wrote:Al,

I saw the same model on clearance here in Massachusetts... they must be eliminating that model from the chain.

Tony

Today I went back to pickup the A4709 kit from Michaels before the three they had last weeksold out. Fortunately, they had one left and it was marked down even further...$40.00. The complete brand new, never been opened kit for $40.00. What a deal!

Now to find some enamels that I can use with System 96 glass..

Bert Weiss · Post by **Bert Weiss** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:20 pm

Al Bray wrote:
Tony Smith wrote:Al,

I saw the same model on clearance here in Massachusetts... they must be eliminating that model from the chain.

Tony
Today I went back to pickup the A4709 kit from Michaels before the three they had last weeksold out. Fortunately, they had one left and it was marked down even further...$40.00. The complete brand new, never been opened kit for $40.00. What a deal!

Now to find some enamels that I can use with System 96 glass..

Al

Any enamels that are finely ground will fit on system 96. The enamel layer is so thin that compatibility is not an issue. Float 90 or 96.

Lorelei · Post by **Lorelei** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:00 pm

Michael's stores are liquidating their stock of Azteks and selling them off at $40. One girl says she even got an additional price reduction at the counter and ended up with a $20.00 price tag. I got mine for $40.00 last week. Scoot out to your local Michael's and be sure they look in the back room. That's where they found mine after they'd said they didn't have any.

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