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High Temp OOPS
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 3:09 pm
by Paul Bush
I just did a high temperature (1700 degrees for two hours) fusing in a stainless steel ring - coated with kiln wash and lined with fiber paper, and sitting on a sheet of 1/8" fiber paper. Some glass still leaked through and stuck to the ring. So I'm looking for any suggestions as to how I might be able to get the fused glass (3/8" by 12") out of the ring without cracking it.
I'm suspecting this may have to become a table top, but thought I'd check in with the experts first.
Thanks,
Paul
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 3:17 pm
by charlie
i'd try popping it into the freezer or the dishwasher on a hot water rinse cycle. the difference in coe's should pop it right off.
you could always suspend it on posts in the kiln and heat up. sooner or later it'll come off.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:15 am
by Dani
Well, they say misery loves company. I just slumped a kiln-load of bowls for a show.... and fired at fusing temps. Nice mess. Sigh. I'm supposed to deliver tomorrow morning for an opening on Friday. I *hate* it when Mercury's in retrograde!

Re: High Temp OOPS
Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:50 am
by Brian and Jenny Blanthorn
Paul Bush wrote:I just did a high temperature (1700 degrees for two hours) fusing in a stainless steel ring - coated with kiln wash and lined with fiber paper, and sitting on a sheet of 1/8" fiber paper. Some glass still leaked through and stuck to the ring. So I'm looking for any suggestions as to how I might be able to get the fused glass (3/8" by 12") out of the ring without cracking it.
I'm suspecting this may have to become a table top, but thought I'd check in with the experts first.
Thanks,
Paul
Well I dont pretend 2B an expert
More of an apprentice, with the glass the master
I suggest sawing the ring
Then soak in water
Grind / file at the glass
Gently ease out the metal where it is loose
Next time try a slow creap up n lower soak
Also have slit in the SS slightly open with same set up
With supports arround it or wired up
A few weights on the rim may help
U dont mention the glass
But at those temps I expect the glass 2B realy runny n disolvey
Re: High Temp OOPS
Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:28 am
by Paul Bush
Brian and Jenny Blanthorn wrote:Paul Bush wrote:I just did a high temperature (1700 degrees for two hours) fusing in a stainless steel ring - coated with kiln wash and lined with fiber paper, and sitting on a sheet of 1/8" fiber paper. Some glass still leaked through and stuck to the ring. So I'm looking for any suggestions as to how I might be able to get the fused glass (3/8" by 12") out of the ring without cracking it.
I'm suspecting this may have to become a table top, but thought I'd check in with the experts first.
Thanks,
Paul
Well I dont pretend 2B an expert
More of an apprentice, with the glass the master
I suggest sawing the ring
Then soak in water
Grind / file at the glass
Gently ease out the metal where it is loose
Next time try a slow creap up n lower soak
Also have slit in the SS slightly open with same set up
With supports arround it or wired up
A few weights on the rim may help
U dont mention the glass
But at those temps I expect the glass 2B realy runny n disolvey
The glass is Bullseye COE 90. And yes, it is runny, which is the reason for the high temperature - so the glass moves and flows and the colors combine. I just need to figure out a better way to keep the glass away from the ss ring.
Paul
Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:30 am
by Paul Bush
charlie wrote:i'd try popping it into the freezer or the dishwasher on a hot water rinse cycle. the difference in coe's should pop it right off.
you could always suspend it on posts in the kiln and heat up. sooner or later it'll come off.
Thanks for confirming what I thought I would try. I'll pop it into the freezer this morning, and see what happens. If all fails, I'll split the ss ring as Brian suggested, and see if I can't pull it away from the glass.
Ah, sweet mysteries of life!
Paul
Re: High Temp OOPS
Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 4:25 am
by Brian and Jenny Blanthorn
Next try painting the fibre with rigidizer n bat wash n use a few layers of fiber + the split SS
At these temps the glas is realy corrosive