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Clear Cabochons

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:20 am
by Heather Nelson
Has anyone ever tried making clear cabochons?
Fusing ,Casting, Pressing would all of these be an option?
I have someone looking for a handful of them for family picture pendants.
I thought I would try to make a few and wondered if anyone else has ever given it a try..(30mm x 22mm)

Thanks for any input.

Heather :?

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:34 pm
by Geri Comstock
I'm not sure what you're asking here...

Are you asking about using clear color (or actually, no color) transparent regular fusing glass or are you talking about using transparent dichro glass for cabs?

I've done both. It works.

Geri Comstock

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:46 pm
by Heather Nelson
Hi Geri,

I want to make completely clear transparent cabs. I have someone who wants to put a picture behind them. They are 30mm x 22mm. Any ideas you have I would be grateful to hear. Thanks so much.
Heather

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:19 pm
by Geri Comstock
I would guess that if they have any kind of thickness to them, the photo might be distorted. This is just a guess though.

You might want to make single layers cabs and just firepolish them.

Geri

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:24 pm
by charlie
Geri Comstock wrote:I would guess that if they have any kind of thickness to them, the photo might be distorted. This is just a guess though.

You might want to make single layers cabs and just firepolish them.

Geri
like fun house mirrors?

there's a new market opportunity for you: custom distorted cabs. makes your chin smaller and your hairline further down your forehead.

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:51 pm
by Kitty
how big? you can buy clear cabs in sacks at places that sell flower arranging stuff. polish the bottom to make it perfect, then fire polish. should work pretty well to put a picture under.

Re: Clear Cabochons

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:26 am
by Paul Tarlow
Heather Nelson wrote:Has anyone ever tried making clear cabochons?
Fusing ,Casting, Pressing would all of these be an option?
I have someone looking for a handful of them for family picture pendants.
I thought I would try to make a few and wondered if anyone else has ever given it a try..(30mm x 22mm)

Thanks for any input.

Heather :?
Put some clear glass on a kiln shelf and fire to about 1550F for 10 minutes. The glass will naturally take on a rounded shape, with rounded edges, and about a 6mm thickness. The only trick will be to determine how much glass to get the size you want.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:43 am
by Lynne Chappell
I don't think this will be a successful project. The back of anything fired on a shelf won't be clear enough for a picture. You would have to grind and polish the bottom. Kind of a lot of work.

Clear glass gems

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:27 am
by cindyj
I see these all the time for sale on ebay. Buy the clear gems at the store-cheap-and the picture is glued on the back witha clear adhesive-weldbond. They will fade in the sunlight and may even yellow. Probably not worth the time and effort to make in the kiln.

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:39 am
by Barbara Muth
My sister makes magnets using images of art glued to the bottom of those cheapo gems. They look fine when you look at them head on, you only see distortion when you look from the sides.

Given how little money you spend on glass the size of a locket, it would certainly be worth a try. I would get the surface of the kiln shelf as clean and smooth as possible (wash, rub out brush marks and vacuum carefully). be prepared to have to coldwork your bottom some, but if this is a small order for someone dear to you, or someone willing to pay well for them, it might be worth the effort.

Good luck!
Barbara

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 8:37 am
by Heather Nelson
Thanks for all the help..I do plan on trying this. It was a given I would have to grind and polish the flat surface.

I'll let you know how I make out..

Heather

Re: Clear Cabochons

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:57 am
by vidrio
Paul Tarlow wrote:
Heather Nelson wrote:Has anyone ever tried making clear cabochons?
Fusing ,Casting, Pressing would all of these be an option?
I have someone looking for a handful of them for family picture pendants.
I thought I would try to make a few and wondered if anyone else has ever given it a try..(30mm x 22mm)

Thanks for any input.

Heather :?
Put some clear glass on a kiln shelf and fire to about 1550F for 10 minutes. The glass will naturally take on a rounded shape, with rounded edges, and about a 6mm thickness. The only trick will be to determine how much glass to get the size you want.
Does it matter what shape you start with to get the round pendent cabs?
What about long ovals, and teardrop shapes?

Thanks Vidrio

Re: Clear Cabochons

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:31 pm
by Paul Tarlow
vidrio wrote:
Paul Tarlow wrote:
Heather Nelson wrote:Has anyone ever tried making clear cabochons?
Fusing ,Casting, Pressing would all of these be an option?
I have someone looking for a handful of them for family picture pendants.
I thought I would try to make a few and wondered if anyone else has ever given it a try..(30mm x 22mm)

Thanks for any input.

Heather :?
Put some clear glass on a kiln shelf and fire to about 1550F for 10 minutes. The glass will naturally take on a rounded shape, with rounded edges, and about a 6mm thickness. The only trick will be to determine how much glass to get the size you want.
Does it matter what shape you start with to get the round pendent cabs?
What about long ovals, and teardrop shapes?

Thanks Vidrio
The shape of the glass you start with matters less the hotter and longer you soak it. To get a teardrop I would start with something close to that shape and watch it to determine how hot to go and how long to soak. You'll tend to have more control with cooler/longer firings.

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:25 am
by JoanB
Vidro asked:
Does it matter what shape you start with to get the round pendent cabs?
What about long ovals, and teardrop shapes?
For round shapes, I use square pieces. Rectangles will turn somewhat oval, triangles will approximate a teardrop shape. You may need to experiment with sizes. Also, this works better if you have at least two layers of glass.

For the original poster, start with two layers of clear, with the top layer being a tiny bit larger all around than the bottom.

JoanB
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