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walpole stain on float
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:09 am
by Don Burt
In contrast to the pic posted earlier, Cliff Oester's Old Walpole stain on unblasted float kicks ass. Bug body gold color is silver stain:
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:15 pm
by Rebecca M.
Don, nice design on the circle. They would make a spectacular transom. I have a question about that piece and this one.
Do you test for tin side on your float to see which side to put the SS? I've heard non-tin side will take SS better. What's the buzzzzz?
Re: walpole stain on float
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:18 pm
by Bert Weiss
Don Burt wrote:In contrast to the pic posted earlier, Cliff Oester's Old Walpole stain on unblasted float kicks ass. Bug body gold color is silver stain:
Old Walpole beats any stain available from Ruesche by a long shot.
I once made my own silver stain. That was interesting. First you dissolve fine silver in nitric acid by adding water to acid (whichever way is was it was the way you are not supposed to mix acid and water). The silver dissolves and you add salt until the silver nitrate percipitates out. then you drain out the acid and rinse with water until the salt is cleaned out. The remaining nuggets are silver nitrate. The commercial stains are mixed with gamboge gum which of course nobody ever heard of. I believe I mixed mine with some kaolin or porcelian fine white clay and it worked pretty slick.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:02 pm
by Don Burt
Becca wrote:Don, nice design on the circle. They would make a spectacular transom. I have a question about that piece and this one.
Do you test for tin side on your float to see which side to put the SS? I've heard non-tin side will take SS better. What's the buzzzzz?
I don't know anything about how stain works on tin side vs. non. I should throw a test of that in the kiln next time.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:06 pm
by rosanna gusler
i use silver leaf with float. the leaf is so thin that it pretty much goes away and just the stain remains. it makes a difference. hard to describe but really there. more opaque for one thing and not as bright a yellow. rosanna
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:45 am
by Michael McNerney
Where can I get some of this stain that I am reading about?
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:00 pm
by Don Burt
Michael McNerney wrote:Where can I get some of this stain that I am reading about?
From warmglass archives:
ceoster@aol.com and asking if you can buy a half-pound of 'Ancient Walpole Silver Stain' or 'Ancient Winchester Silver Stain'. His address is:
C.E Oster
RR1 Box 130B
Alstead NH 03602
603 835 6235
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:54 pm
by Don Burt
Don Burt wrote:Becca wrote:Clip
I have a question about that piece and this one.
Do you test for tin side on your float to see which side to put the SS? I've heard non-tin side will take SS better. What's the buzzzzz?
I don't know anything about how stain works on tin side vs. non. I should throw a test of that in the kiln next time.
It made a big difference in the test I did. I cut a scrap of 1/4 float in half and painted opposite sides with what I think was fairly identical applications. One side came out stronger.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:44 pm
by Rebecca M.
Wow! That is a big difference. Is that the same Reusche as on your medallion?
ps- took ya long enough
JK
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:10 pm
by Don Burt
Becca wrote:Wow! That is a big difference. Is that the same Reusche as on your medallion?
No its Ancient Walpole stain
ps- took ya long enough
JK
my kiln isn't good for testing...have to test when there's similar work in there. Progress is made slowly in my studio.