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Low Tech Pattern Bar Cutting?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:29 pm
by Judd
Before I blow a wad of cash on a tile saw (I really want one, but with 3 kids, food is kinda important in our lives), is there a low tech way to cut pattern bar? I don't really care if the cut is perfect and clean.

I read how the old bead makers would make a milifloral cane, score a slice, rest the cane on a wedge of steel, then tap the top of the cane with a hammer - neatly slicing off a cut from the cane.

Would this process work? I know the edges would be ragged, but as I stated, that is not a problem.

Thanks in advance,
Judd

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:41 pm
by Patricia O'Neill
The process that you describe works for larger pieces of thick glass. I don't think it can work for pattern bars but I have never tried either, so...

I do not know what is your budget but you can find a tile saw for $50 on sale at Harbor Freight or Home Depot. It splashes water and is not too precise, but it will do the job. The blade provided will cut glass but if you can afford, get a better blade like a lapidary (expect that the blade costs cost as much as the saw).

Hope that helps....
Patricia

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 3:27 pm
by Lionel
A hand held die grinder - check the used tool section at your local Sears or repair shops - $40-60.00

4" Diamond blade - buy a new one $30-40.

If you have a good compressor - new air grinders are cheap -30-40 and you dont have to worry about shock.

Work outside and wear a face mask and goggles - it's messy.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:03 pm
by Kitty
if it's not going to be a regular thing, ask a tile shop to cut them for you. that's what i do. i can't have any messy power tools because i live in a condo. thank heavens i'm moving to a house in January, so i can do things that are impossible in my present situation. anyway, i've been going over to the stone and tile yard in my town, and the guys cut my bars for me. the last time i was there, they said they'd show me how to use their big tile saw so i can do my own cuts.

you can rent tile saws, of course.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 6:05 pm
by Kevin Midgley
Saws waste material. Ceramic tile nippers can work as can scoring and using a pair of grozing or regular pliers if you are cheap. Kevin

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 6:11 pm
by Brad Walker
Kevin Midgley wrote:Saws waste material. Ceramic tile nippers can work as can scoring and using a pair of grozing or regular pliers if you are cheap.
You cut pattern bars with ceramic tile nippers or by scoring then grozing :?: :!:

One inch pattern bars?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 6:18 pm
by Brock
Brad Walker wrote:
Kevin Midgley wrote:Saws waste material. Ceramic tile nippers can work as can scoring and using a pair of grozing or regular pliers if you are cheap.
You cut pattern bars with ceramic tile nippers or by scoring then grozing :?: :!:

One inch pattern bars?
He's got a BIG nipper. Brock

Re: Low Tech Pattern Bar Cutting?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:41 pm
by Bert Weiss
Judd wrote:Before I blow a wad of cash on a tile saw (I really want one, but with 3 kids, food is kinda important in our lives), is there a low tech way to cut pattern bar? I don't really care if the cut is perfect and clean.

I read how the old bead makers would make a milifloral cane, score a slice, rest the cane on a wedge of steel, then tap the top of the cane with a hammer - neatly slicing off a cut from the cane.

Would this process work? I know the edges would be ragged, but as I stated, that is not a problem.

Thanks in advance,
Judd
Judd

Take some glass over to Home Depot. Tell them you are thinking of buying a tile saw and you want to see how it works. If the guy is cool and not too busy, maybe he'll cut some up for you.

If that works you can make the rounds to Lowes etc. Make your first piece good and sell it or trade it for a tile saw. The small one is only around $80. By all means eat first.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:53 am
by Judd
Thank you for your replies.

I already made my first pattern bar (1/4" thick), and tried the method I described above with very ragged results. But, $50 or $70 isn't too bad for a tile saw.

Thanks again,
Judd

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:53 am
by charlie
Lionel wrote:A hand held die grinder - check the used tool section at your local Sears or repair shops - $40-60.00

4" Diamond blade - buy a new one $30-40.

If you have a good compressor - new air grinders are cheap -30-40 and you dont have to worry about shock.

Work outside and wear a face mask and goggles - it's messy.
harbor freight sells one for $15 on sale. that, and a 4" diamond blade which will run around $10 there on sale, will get you a rough way to do this. you can get a cheap tile saw from home depot or harbor freight for around $75.