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Nickel-Iron glass compatible alloy

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 3:28 pm
by Hugo Gavarini
Hello,

Have someone heard about this alloy?. It was designed to fit soda-lime glasses. I thought it would be of use in warmglass creations. Below this I quoted some links for what it's worth. Seek for Alloy 48

http://www.edfagan.com/htmDocs/thermal.htm

http://www.specialmetals.com/products/p ... ilomag.pdf

A known brand is NILO ALLOY 48 code UNS K94800. It's 48% Nickel 58% Fe. COE (20°C-300°C) --> 87.

Re: Nickel-Iron glass compatible alloy

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:37 am
by Brian and Jenny Blanthorn
Hugo Gavarini wrote:Hello,

Have someone heard about this alloy?. It was designed to fit soda-lime glasses. I thought it would be of use in warmglass creations. Below this I quoted some links for what it's worth. Seek for Alloy 48

http://www.edfagan.com/htmDocs/thermal.htm

http://www.specialmetals.com/products/p ... ilomag.pdf

A known brand is NILO ALLOY 48 code UNS K94800. It's 48% Nickel 58% Fe. COE (20°C-300°C) --> 87.
No not heard of it

I wonder wheather it is a cold assembly type of thing

Rather like lead came is

Brian
There is a big problem with this kinda industrial stuff U often can only get it it U buy a ton or so

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:34 pm
by Hugo Gavarini
Hi Brian,

It's not a cold stuff but a special alloy designed to fit Soda-Lime-Silica glasses. It's for glass-to-metal seals. And yes, here in Argentina you have to buy a full spool of wire. I thought that up-there it would be easier to get two or three feet and try it in the kiln. According to the specifications it sounds a promising material.

Eureka? - Light bulbs lead-in wires

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:13 pm
by Hugo Gavarini
I think I have found that darn wire. Each incandescent light bulbs has two lead-in wires to feed electricity to the tungsten filament. According to

http://www.mgg-lamps.de/pdf/07E.pdf

these wires called "Dumet" should be compatible with glass (light bulbs are made with 90 COE glass). The wire composition is nickel-iron with some coating to improve sealing. More info on Dumet wire:

http://www.jlcelectromet.com/alloy364248.htm

http://www.jlcelectromet.com/dumetwire.htm

Well, Dumet wire is not exactly the same as Alloy48 but I think these are very interesting metals. I wonder whether I should take a hammer and go for a 150W light bulb to extirpate the lead-in wires and see... I'm affraid Graciela would defend it.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:22 pm
by Bert Weiss
Hugo

I'll take a guess and say that maybe it is the wire used to make wired glass. If you could get some, it might make interesting art between layers of glass.

I have seen wires fused between glass that were less than aesthetically pleasing. Figuring a technique to do that and get a nice look would surely be interesting.

Thin copper works. Heavy copper does not.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:29 am
by Brian and Jenny Blanthorn
Hugo Gavarini wrote:Hi Brian,

It's not a cold stuff but a special alloy designed to fit Soda-Lime-Silica glasses. It's for glass-to-metal seals. And yes, here in Argentina you have to buy a full spool of wire. I thought that up-there it would be easier to get two or three feet and try it in the kiln. According to the specifications it sounds a promising material.
If U can use the correct words sometimes U can get a free sample

Do not use words like I am poor give me free stuff

Something like

I work on large artchitectural commissions using fuzed glass and I am researching new materials

Ur Aloy 48 sounds realy interesting 4 my application

Could I get a small sample from U 2 try



Some 20 years ago I wanted some tungsten carbide rod

After a lot of research I found a company

Called em up

I said please could I have some 2mm tungsten cardide rod

They said certainly how many tons did I want !!

Eventually they sent me some free samples

I am still using thrm today

Brian