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marker .. burns off?

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:17 pm
by Bonnie Rubinstein
This has probably been asked before, but I could not find in archives.. will a sharpee (permanent) marker burn off when fusing,
without residue ?

Thanks, friends..
Bonnie

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:22 pm
by Brock
Not necessarily. If you're making a small piece, no problem.

If you're making a large expensive labour intensive piece . . . .

. . . it'll leave a mark. Brock

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:29 pm
by Bev Brandt
Brock wrote:Not necessarily. If you're making a small piece, no problem.

If you're making a large expensive labour intensive piece . . . .

. . . it'll leave a mark. Brock
Sharpie's Law?

- Bev

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:33 pm
by Cynthia
Brock wrote:Not necessarily. If you're making a small piece, no problem.

If you're making a large expensive labour intensive piece . . . .

. . . it'll leave a mark. Brock
Other factors are if you have a deadline, and the glass you are using is a special order, or out of stock.

I use black sharpie's and they've always fired off cleanly, but I run with scissors too. :-s

Best advice is 'better safe than sorry'.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:52 pm
by Bonnie Rubinstein
Okay, gang, it is a larger piece.. a special order, and I'm under a time crunch..
I get the message.... don't want to take the risk..
But I didn't want that to be the answer! Got my job cut out for me tonight!!

thanks...
Bonnie

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:56 pm
by Tony Smith
and the new silver sharpie is the worst... it takes a solvent to get it off, and any left behind fuses into the glass leaving a silver mark... maybe it can be used for design elements.

Tony

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:05 pm
by Tony Serviente
It can be Tony-The gold one too.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:29 am
by molly
That's what I was thinking! The metallic sharpies should be very useful for jewelry designs! Gotta get some soon!

Gold/Silver marker Question

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:16 am
by Gale aka artistefem
Tony or should I say Tony(s), are the gold and silver markers formulated with real precious metals? Will they stay intact like the Hanovia gold or wil they stain like our good old friend silver?

If I applied one of these metal colored markers to my glass project and laid the glass -decorated side down- against the kiln shelf, would it leave a bleeding stain that contaminates the kiln shelf?

Re: Gold/Silver marker Question

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:35 am
by Tony Smith
Gale aka artistefem wrote:Tony or should I say Tony(s), are the gold and silver markers formulated with real precious metals? Will they stay intact like the Hanovia gold or wil they stain like our good old friend silver?

If I applied one of these metal colored markers to my glass project and laid the glass -decorated side down- against the kiln shelf, would it leave a bleeding stain that contaminates the kiln shelf?
Gale

I'm not sure as I didn't fired it face down. I just know that I was using it to trace a pattern for cutting on my bandsaw, and I didn't get all of the marker off near the edge and it was still there after firing. The big question was if it was still silver after firing or was it just white?... not sure either. I think this calls for a quick experiment.

Tony

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:07 am
by Tony Serviente
Just what I was thinking. Will throw a bunch of marker tests in with the next glue run. My experience with the gold and silver markers is that they don't stay their pre fired color, but turn brownish. Never tried face down, and don't know what they use to get the color. I do know they use some rather nasty solvents and you should use them with good ventilation. In case there is silver in the marker, I would hesitate in doing a face down firing, unless it were on paper.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:55 pm
by SAReed
Tony Smith wrote:and the new silver sharpie is the worst... it takes a solvent to get it off, and any left behind fuses into the glass leaving a silver mark... maybe it can be used for design elements.

Tony
I used the silver Sharpie to mark on BE gold purple. To clean the glass I put it in extremely hot soapy water and let it soak for 5 minutes or so. I used a soapy rag to wipe the glass and all of the silver came off. I have fused the pieces and there isn't any sign of residue.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:02 pm
by Tony Serviente
I use either soy oil or wd40 to get the paint marker off. In a pinch, nose grease will do!

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:28 pm
by Tony Smith
I use Goof-Off. If the ventilation is adequate, it's not too bad. If there's no ventilation, it can be pretty nasty stuff.

Tony

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:21 pm
by Chip
Nose grease????? :shock:

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:38 pm
by Brock
Chip wrote:Nose grease????? :shock:
http://www.dermnetnz.org/index.html

cleaning silver sharpie

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:42 am
by MarlaS
i just use a little windex on a chunk of 1/4 inch thick fiber paper/blanket & it rubs right off.