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couple of newbie questions

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:09 am
by fun5oh
Hi all,
My name is Robin, and I just officially delurked. I have been finding loads of useful information here and I want to thank everyone. =D>

Although I did tons of serches yesterday ands got sidetracked everytime I really never found the answer to my question. So I will ask..........

I am going to order an airbrush, mainly to apply kilnwash to ss molds, I would also like to use it for applying some lusters or paints, question is I do not know what kind of paints to buy for glass fusing. I would like something non-toxic, food safe. It would be sandwiched under clear. I would like to try Pearl-ex powders but am not sure what medium I would use to mix them. I guess in general I just need some opinions.......

What powder?
What medium?
Where to order it from?

Also does anyone know the coe of chicago art glass?

Thanks in advance,
Robin :)

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:42 pm
by pclark
Hi! I will let someone else answer the question about food safe paints but, for the pearl-ex powders you can use almost any airbrush. I believe Avery Anderson recommends the Aztek. I use a Pasche. You can get one that is for general airbrushing. I am not sure of models right now but they make some that are for fine detail, medium detail etc.... For the Peral-Ex medium I use a little Isopropyl Alcohol. I think some people use gum arabic. There really are a lot of posts in regards to this in the archives. Search for Pearl-ex or Mica or Avery and Airbursh. Hope this helps.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:21 pm
by Tony Serviente
Robin-Make sure you keep a strict separation between applicator and bottle that you use for kiln wash from those you use for painting. I have a paint sprayer I use for kilnwashing, and that's all I use it for. Airbrush is kept far away.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:15 pm
by fun5oh
Tony-
Are you saying that I SHOULD NOT use the same airbrush for both kiln wash and paint? Why is that? Will the gun not clean up properly with the wash in it?

Thanks,
Robin :)

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:18 pm
by charlie
fun5oh wrote:Tony-
Are you saying that I SHOULD NOT use the same airbrush for both kiln wash and paint? Why is that?

Thanks,
Robin :)
of course you can. you have to clean them extremely well between uses of different materials. for production, it's lots easier to have 2.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:22 pm
by fun5oh
What would be used to clean the kiln wash up best? Maybe I should just get a cheap sprayer for the kiln wash and keep the airbrush just for paints?

Also I was thinking of getting some Thompson carefree lusters, would that be a good choice, I can only find them for sale through Thompson, does anyone know who else would carry them, I like more of the one stop shopping, saves on shipping :D

Thanks,
Robin :)

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:30 pm
by charlie
i use a brush for applying wash and my airbrush for paint and lusters.

carefree lusters and pearl-ex are pretty much the same thing. lots in the archives on both, along with places to get them.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:51 pm
by Tony Serviente
Kiln wash contamination will cause problems, and it's insidious, as is grit from a sandblaster. Like Charlie said, it is possible to clean it up well, it's just too much trouble for me to deal with, and I apply kiln wash so much that it made perfect sense to have a tool dedicated to it. You can pick up a paint sprayer for $40 or so for the kiln wash, and with 30lbs. or so of compressed air you're in business.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:42 pm
by fun5oh
Thank you everyone for your answers. I think I am going to just buy a cheap sprayer for the wash, I really don't like brushing it on at all. I have checked the archives for info on paints and where to buy them, unfortunately whenever I do a search, it only lets me read 1 page of information, even if it says there are more, I can only read one then it tells me there are no more results. Believe me I was in there for hours yesterday before I finally decided to ask. So if anybody could answer my questions about paint, I would very much appreciate it :)

Thanks again,
Robin :)

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:15 am
by Tony Serviente
Just a bit more advice. I tried a few different kinds of sprayers for wash, and the best was one I got from Sears. I tried some high end contractor styles, and they didn't work as well. Have had two Sears for many years now, and they are used about every day.