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vermiculite board as dams

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:39 am
by Cheryl
Since the now-famous V board can be used to build casting boxes, is there any (good) reason not to use them as dams? It's hard for me to find mullite shelves that are rectangular or square and long enough (20 plus inches) locally to make dams, anyway. I'd use them with fiberpaper assuming they can't be kiln-washed.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:40 am
by Brad Walker
They work fine for dams.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:10 am
by judith
although two points might be considered:

1. How long will they hold up - how many firings can one expect?

2. They will not have as much weight (therefore strenght to hold position) as mullite so you will probably need to add some weight in the form of kiln bricks or something similar.

judith

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 12:28 pm
by Bert Weiss
judith wrote:although two points might be considered:

1. How long will they hold up - how many firings can one expect?

2. They will not have as much weight (therefore strenght to hold position) as mullite so you will probably need to add some weight in the form of kiln bricks or something similar.

judith
Considering that the boards can also be used as shelves, you can screw down the dams.

I am considering reflooring my kiln with a layer of board that can have sides for screeding my sand layer flat.

screeding

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:00 pm
by Cheryl
that's such a great word, and idea. I was reading Halem's Glass Notes last pm and thinking of you. There are really some gems in that book! By the way, what ever became of Boyce Lundstrom?

Re: vermiculite board as dams

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:56 pm
by charlie
Cheryl wrote:Since the now-famous V board can be used to build casting boxes, is there any (good) reason not to use them as dams? It's hard for me to find mullite shelves that are rectangular or square and long enough (20 plus inches) locally to make dams, anyway. I'd use them with fiberpaper assuming they can't be kiln-washed.
i use cut up 18-20" porcelain floor tiles for dams. they're cheap, or even free, if you get broken or chipped ones from tiling stores.

Re: vermiculite board as dams

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:05 pm
by Paul Tarlow
Cheryl wrote:Since the now-famous V board can be used to build casting boxes, is there any (good) reason not to use them as dams? It's hard for me to find mullite shelves that are rectangular or square and long enough (20 plus inches) locally to make dams, anyway. I'd use them with fiberpaper assuming they can't be kiln-washed.
Ceramaguard strips make great damns and, as best as I can tell, last just about forever if you treat them gently. You can cut it square with a table saw -- just don't do it inside -- it is inconievable dusty.

They do require kiln furniture/bricks for support.

- Paul

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:57 pm
by Rebecca M.
Ceramaguard strips make great damns and, as best as I can tell, last just about forever if you treat them gently. You can cut it square with a table saw -- just don't do it inside -- it is inconievable dusty.

They do require kiln furniture/bricks for support.

- Paul
Paul, do you use kilnwash on them or paper between? I've got a couple molds I cut for slumping but they don't get that hot.... :?:

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:09 pm
by Paul Tarlow
Becca wrote:
Ceramaguard strips make great dams and, as best as I can tell, last just about forever if you treat them gently. You can cut it square with a table saw -- just don't do it inside -- it is inconievable dusty.

They do require kiln furniture/bricks for support.

- Paul
Paul, do you use kilnwash on them or paper between? I've got a couple molds I cut for slumping but they don't get that hot.... :?:
For dams I use fiber paper. For drop rings I use kiln wash.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:58 pm
by Tony Serviente
Cheryl-Last I heard Boyce was in California making tiles, and Camp Colton, my alma matar of sorts, is now available for weddings and retreats.