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skamol and kiln wash
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:17 pm
by Paul Housberg
Has anybody tried fusing or slumping on Skamol prepared with kiln wash?
Would like to be able to carve it (perhaps on a CNC machine) and coat with wash for a reusable slumping or kilncasting mold. Has that been tried? Does Skamol break down after repeated firings?
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:27 pm
by Ron Coleman
Paul
Have you checked out this link?
http://www.warmglass.com/Skamol.htm
Ron
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:11 am
by Paul Housberg
Yes. But, I'm interested in actual hands-on experience. And, specifically use of kiln wash with the board.
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:05 pm
by Marty
Paul- I found kilnwash on verm board fine for slumping but not for fusing. I'd assume you'd need a more serious separator for casting as well. I think the problem is that the surface is so irregular- but maybe I didn't coat it well enough with kilnwash. BE uses fiber paper when casting in their verm. box molds.
You can definitely carve the stuff- I used a plunge router. Have someone hold a vacuum nozzle near the work when you cut- it's dusty.
Marty
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:35 pm
by Brock
Marty, how do you think it would be structurally? Could you router out points, or leave little pyramids sticking up? Would they survive? Brock
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:40 pm
by Paul Housberg
Marty wrote:Paul- I found kilnwash on verm board fine for slumping but not for fusing. I'd assume you'd need a more serious separator for casting as well. I think the problem is that the surface is so irregular- but maybe I didn't coat it well enough with kilnwash.
Did it stick? Breakdown? I'd like to go to 1430 with a 10 to 30 minute hold.
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:30 pm
by Jeri D
Hi,
I had 1 bad experience fusing many layers of scrap on thinfire. It stuck and pulled up some of the board. I went to 1500 and held for 15 to get a complete fuse.
I recently builit a 15x15x1/2 strip tabletop on a piece and it fused fine on board but stuck to the fiberpaper. Not sure what i want to try
next, but now have to think hard about Brock's #1 choice equipment choice, the blaster.
I sure wish it would work well so I can use it for a kilnshelf. the fiberboard that I have been using on floor of kiln is shot.
Floor stymied jeri
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:35 pm
by Brock
Hi,
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:44 pm
by Marty
Paul- I ran a test to 1525 with lots of kilnwash and it stuck.
Brock- I don't think you could get real fine detail with it but it does carve nicely.
Jeri- I don't use thinfire, just the 1/32" stuff, and I don't get those kind of failures.