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				what am i doing wrong????
				Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:23 pm
				by Paul Schulz
				Hi all ,,Would anyone care to tell me what i am doing wrong. Am using spectrum 96 glass, the blanks were 14 cm wide and 7 mm thick. The first one i tried to slump through a drop ring popped after a few hours after coming out of the kiln the 2nd was in bits when i opened the kiln next morning 
175 500 000
200 650 30
200 725  2 hours
asap 482 40
200 100 00
 the second one took 3 hours to get  nice slumping and i held it at 482 for a full hour to anneal .the walls of the vases  are about 1.5 to 2 mm thick at the thinnest ..Am using a Paragon high fire kiln
			 
			
					
				Re: what am i doing wrong????
				Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:37 pm
				by Bob
				Paul,
My thoughts are the glass is not properly annealed. The first suggestion would be to slow the ramp down from 482. The soak at 482 is to equalize the temperature. The cooling from 482 has to be slow enough to prevent reintroduction of a temperature difference between the interior and exterior of the glass. 
My second suggestion would be to anneal the glass longer both at the soak point and during the ramp. The glass is varying in thickness and that makes annealing more difficult . Also the drop through mould is going to hold heat in it and the release of heat will be different than along the sides. I would anneal for twice the thickness of glass. Check S96 website for their annealing schedules. You've put so much effort into the piece that a bit more annealing time is worth it.
Those are my thoughts.
Cheers,
Bob
			 
			
					
				Re: what am i doing wrong????
				Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:23 pm
				by rosanna gusler
				also verify that your temps are accurate. r.
			 
			
					
				Re: what am i doing wrong????
				Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:23 am
				by JestersBaubles
				(for reference, my My deg c to f conversion is:
347	932
392	1202
392	1337
212	899.6
392	212   )
IMO, you are ramping too fast in all segments, especially if you have a relatively short, top-firing kiln and and the glass is close to the elements.
I would ramp no faster than 150 to 200 deg f/hr. Also, that's a pretty hot drop temp, at least in my kiln, which would result in very thin sides. So you've likely got a thick rim, thin sides, and thick bottom. The uneven thickness will create stress, requiring a longer annealing time. Also, Spectrum anneals at 510/950. 
So... lots of factors to consider, but basically, a rework of your firing schedule. 
Dana W.
			 
			
					
				Re: what am i doing wrong????
				Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:29 am
				by JestersBaubles
				Here is a schedule I have used for a drop vase of a similar size (but not construction -- my colors were a transparent pink and all designs were painted). The glass, however, was Spectrum:
1	150	1100	30	
2	100	1250	60	(I would have watched here and lengthened/shortened as necessary)
3	1500	950	120	
4	100	700	00	
I have a firebrick kiln, so the cooldown to room temp after the kiln shuts off is pretty slow. 
Please excuse my use of Fahrenheit -- I copied this out of my excel spreadsheet  
 
 
Dana W.
 
			
					
				Re: what am i doing wrong????
				Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:55 am
				by Paul Schulz
				Hey thanks ,you guys ,,so i guess all in all slow the whole thing down and anneal twice as long,,, 
