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CMC vs. Kylr-Fire
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:06 am
by Linda Crissman
Someone mentioned they used CMC with their frit. Is there a difference in the uses of the 2? Are there any pros or cons in using 1 over the other? Thanks.
Re: CMC vs. Kylr-Fire
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:12 am
by Brock
elsie blu wrote:Someone mentioned they used CMC with their frit. Is there a difference in the uses of the 2? Are there any pros or cons in using 1 over the other? Thanks.
Avery uses Klyr-Fire because it tastes better. Really! Brock
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:21 am
by Avery Anderson
I haven't given CMC the taste test yet (nevermind...you had to be there).
Rick LaLonde uses CMC in his frit work (
http://www.richardlalonde.com). It seems very similar to Klyr Fire, with the exception that it comes in powder form so you can mix to any consistency you wish. It burns off clean as does Klyr Fire. I will begin useing it for when I need a heavier medium, but will stick with Klyr Fire for airbrushing.
Avery
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:52 pm
by Bert Weiss
Avery Anderson wrote:I haven't given CMC the taste test yet (nevermind...you had to be there).
Rick LaLonde uses CMC in his frit work (
http://www.richardlalonde.com). It seems very similar to Klyr Fire, with the exception that it comes in powder form so you can mix to any consistency you wish. It burns off clean as does Klyr Fire. I will begin useing it for when I need a heavier medium, but will stick with Klyr Fire for airbrushing.
Avery
My rumour level understanding is that CMC (methyl cellulose) is what is used to make klyr fire. Buying CMC is cheaper and more versatile than buying Klyr fire. I have ordered a pound of CMC. It cost $8.07 at my local pottery supplier. I haven't got it yet. I asked for a recipe, but I'm not sure I'll get that. Does anybody have a basic one?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:41 pm
by Stuart Clayman
Bert,
If Klyn-fire is mae with CMC and it tastes good, do you want the receipt that makes the klyn-fire taste good.. or just the one with good taste.
Stuart
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:57 pm
by jj jacobs
Bert--the recipe that Richard LaLonde uses in his class for his CMC formula is 4 parts boiling water to 1 part CMC. This gives a gluey consistency that is perfect for making frit outlines. For a lighter formula (like Klyr-fire) I'd try 5 or 6 parts boiling water to 1 part CMC.
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:53 pm
by Linda Crissman
I've heard it to be used also as a paste and mixed with frit then placed on glass with a pastry tube in a thicker form.